-Caveat Lector- Amelia wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > Well, the Vatican had better be careful or they will find > themselves listed by ADL as a Hate Group if they are not already. > I seem to recall a large number of Catholics being sent to the same > fate the as Jews in this Holocaust but they just do not seem to > count at all. No they didn't count because they were slavs and Poles. But Germany was at least half Catholic, and Austria was all Catholic. And Hitler was also Catholic. Is the Pope Catholic??? > Those demanding so much respect for their own > religion might start by showing some for the religion of others. Pius was a Nazi and an admirer of Hitler. He helped finance the party early on. He also helped set up the Ustasha regime in Catholic Croatia where a high ranking Bishop ran the death camps and murdered a million Serbs, tens of thousands of Jews, mand thousands of Gypsies. The ' polite ' question is whether Pius 12 " did enough " to save the Jews in Christian Europe." The real thing the Vatican is hiding is its complcitiy in the Holocaust, and it's direct action in helping known Nazi war criminals escape justice through the Rat Line. Just thought you'd like to know. > > I hope they do not make one of those disgusting ads like they did > on the dragging death in Texas and show it every single day they > way they still do that one. It is STILL aired DAILY. Maybe they > will have one featuring the Pope as the perpetrator of Hate Crimes > for his failure to do as they say. After all, Hate Crimes can only > be committed against Blacks and Jews and Homosexuals. No one else > seems to be important enough to count in these matters. JPII Better > hop, hop to it if he knows what is good for him, hadn't he? > ~Amelia~ > > Vatican speaks out against Holocaust panel's 'slanderous campaign' They don't have to speak out to defend their position. All they have to do is open the archives like they said they would. J2 > > By VICTOR L. SIMPSON, Associated Press > > VATICAN CITY > (August 7, 2001 10:12 a.m. EDT ) - Accusing Jewish historians on a > special Holocaust commission of mounting a "slanderous campaign" > against the Catholic church, the Vatican said the group's "clearly > incorrect behavior" insults the church's integrity. > > The accusation Tuesday was part of the Vatican's response to the > recent announcement that a panel of Jewish and Catholic historians > investigating the Vatican's actions during the Holocaust had > suspended its work because the Vatican has not released all of its > World War II-era archives. > > The Vatican's response was written by the Rev. Peter Gumpel, a > German Jesuit gathering documents to support the possible > beatification of Pope Pius XII, the World War II pope. > > In it, he defended Pius' action, saying material made available to > the historians showed that Pius "made every possible effort to save > as many lives as possible, without any distinction." > > The historians, who were appointed by the Vatican and a Jewish > group to examine Pius' actions, released a preliminary report in > October. They described a pope bent on fruitless diplomacy as > reports of atrocities poured into the Vatican. > > The historians said at the time that questions still needed to be > answered before they could issue a final report. They expressed > hope that the Vatican would open up the archives of the Holy See's > correspondences to fill in the gaps in the 12 volumes of wartime > documents provided by the Vatican. > > Gumpel said he had met with the group and answered some of their > questions and offered to answer the rest at another session, but > that this was ignored. > > It was therefore disconcerting, he said, that in the following > months "some Jewish members in the group had systematically > affirmed that they never received answers to their questions." > > He also said it was "false" that the Vatican does not intend to > open up its archives, saying this will be done as soon as they are > ready. > > Gumpel said several though not all the Jewish members of the > commission had "publicly spread the suspicion" that the Holy See > was trying to hide documents "that in their judgment could be > compromising." > > He did not give their names. > > Gumpel said the panel's work had failed as a result of > "irresponsible" actions by some of its members. > Copyright © 2001 Interest!ALERT All rights reserved. > Copyright © 1996-2000 Nando Interest!ALERT Inc. > Legal Notices and Terms of Use <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. 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