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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:42:58 -0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [neah] Carvalho apologized on CNN Manipulating Images

Hello,

I wanted to inform you on the issue of CNN using
1991 footage.

Márcio A. V. Carvalho from State University of
Campinas - Brazil
wrote: "I sincerely apologize for this uncertain information;
unfortunately I can't prove the information contained in my last
post; IT'S ONLY A CONJECTURE, THAT THOSE IMAGES OF PALESTINIANS
CELEBRATING IS FALSE. I bought the idea myself, and reproduced it for
you because of the importance of it, in the case it was to be
confirmed."

I wish he had informed us in person. This article
caused our
website to crash several times during the weekend.
Our server got
up to 4 hits per second.

After CounterPuncher took this issue seriously, it
appeared on their
front page: http://www.counterpunch.org/ This
article was taken of
their web site.

It was also published on our website:
http://www.indymedia.org.ilarticle/6946


After searching for information on the issue of CNN
using 1991
footage of celebrating Palestinians. I finally found
an email by
Marcio A. V. Carvalho. This email was sent to the
soc.culture.polish Newsgroup.


Have a happy new year,


Guy

indymedia group - ISRAEL
http://www.indymedia.org.il/
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and hundreds of journalists
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> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
> Subject: Re: PAPUREC  FWD  >  "CNN:  Manipulating
> Images ?"
> Date: 14 Sep 2001 12:40:01 -0700
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>
> Dear all,
>
> Last September 13, I've sent an email to a social
> theory list in which
> I provided some information about the falsity of the
> images of
> Palestinian celebration for the terrorism in USA,
> information given to
> me by a teacher. I spent the last day looking for
> that teacher, and,
> unfortunately, when I found her, she DENIED having
> access to such
> images.
>
> She said that she was sure she had seen the images
> back in 1991, but
> SHE CAN'T PROVE. She was not willing to provide
> further information,
> DENYING what she had said before to a full class of
> students.
>
> I sincerely apologize for this uncertain
> information; unfortunately I
> can't prove the information contained in my last
> post; IT'S ONLY A
> CONJECTURE, THAT THOSE IMAGES OF PALESTINIANS
> CELEBRATING IS FALSE. I
> bought the idea myself, and reproduced it for you
> because of the
> importance of it, in the case it was to be
> confirmed.
>
> Whatever news I get I'll pass to you.
>
> Best regards
>
> Márcio A. V. Carvalho
> State University of Campinas - Brazil
>
>
> "PAPUREC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:<3ba141a2$0$3574$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:48 PM
> > > Subject: CNN: Manipuating Images?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Independent Media Center
> > > >       http://www.indymedia.org:8081
> > > >
> > > >       CNN USING 1991 FOOTAGE of celebrating
> Palistinians to manipulate
>  you
> > > >       (english) Wednesday 12 Sep 2001
> > > >       author: Marcio
> > > >
> > > >       I'd like to add some ideas from here,
> down south.
> > > >
> > > >       There's an important point in the power
> of press, specifically the
>  power
> > > >       of CNN.
> > > >
> > > >       All around the world we are subjected to
> 3 or 4 huge news
>  distributors,
> > > >       and one of them - as you well know - is
> CNN. Very well, I guess
> >  all
> >  of
> > > >       you have been seeing (just as I've been)
> images from this company.
>  In
> > > >       particular, one set of images called my
> attencion: the
>  Palestinians
> > > >       celebrating the bombing, out on the
> streets, eating some cake and
>  making
> > > >       funny faces for the camera.
> > > >
> > > >       Well, THOSE IMAGES WERE SHOT BACK IN
> 1991!!! Those are images of
> > > >       Palestinians celebrating the invasion of
> Kuwait! It's simply
> > > >       unacceptable that a super-power of
> cumminications as CNN uses
>  images
> > > >       which do not correspond to the reality
> in talking about so serious
>  an
> > > >       issue.
> > > >
> > > >       A teacher of mine, here in Brazil, has
> videotapes recorded in
> >  1991,
> >  with
> > > >       the very same images; he's been sending
> emails to CNN, Globo (the
>  major
> > > >       TV network in Brazil) and newspapers,
> denouncing what I myself
>  classify
> > > >       as a crime against the public opinion.
> If anyone of you has access
>  to
> > > >       this kind of files, serch for it. In the
> meanwhile, I'll try to
> >  'put
> >  my
> > > >       hands' on a copy of this tape.
> > > >
> > > >       But now, think for a moment about the
> impact of such images. Your
>  people
> > > >       is hurt, emotionally fragile, and this
> kind broadcast have very
>  high
> > > >       possibility of causing waves of anger
> and rage against
>  Palestinians.
> > > >       It's simply irresponsible to show images
> such as those.
> > > >
> > > >       Finally, I'd like to say that we all
> regret and condemn all that
>  has
> > > >       happened in the last days; but Nikos has
> a point here. I really
>  don't
> > > >       want to be misunderstood here, but the
> truth is that US government
>  had
> > > >       shown no respect for other countries in
> the last decades. In the
> >  60s
> >  and
> > > >       70s they had halped lots of military
> coups throughout the world
> > > >       (including Brazil in 64). Later, with
> Reagan and Bush Father, the
> > > >       Washington Consensus have been
> demolishing the bases of our
>  economies,
> > > >       making us more and more dependant (and,
> many of us, prehocupied
>  with
> > > >       this situation).
> > > >
> > > >       Your current president quickly made
> things worse: Kioto Protocol,
>  Star
> > > >       Wars, Colombia Plan, the exchange of
> rain forest for pieces of
>  external
> > > >       debt, tha abandonment of the position of
> third party in
>  negotiations
> > > >       between IRA and England, and between
> Palestinians and Israel. All
>  those
> > > >       mistakes in US external politics made
> your country more hatred
>  than
> > > >       before, and, of course, more vulnerable.
> > > >
> > > >       Listen, I'm NOT justifying the terrorist
> actions that took place
> >  in
> >  your
> > > >       country; but it seems to me that, if
> your leaders had come along
>  another
> > > >       path of thoughts and actions, you
> wouldn't be suffering what you
>  are
> > > >       now.
> > > >
> > > >       Best regards, and the hope that
> everything is resolved for the
> >  best
> >  of
> > > >       all of us
> > > >
> > > >       Márcio A. V. Carvalho
> > > >       State University of Campinas - Brazil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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