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The New War Against Terror
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The Coalition – Including Algeria, Russia, China, Indonesia

Now that’s pretty impressive and that has to do with the coalition that is
now being organized to fight the war against terror. And it’s very
interesting to see how that coalition is being described. So have a look at
this morning’s Christian Science Monitor. That’s a good newspaper. One of
the best international newspapers, with real coverage of the world. The lead
story, the front-page story, is about how the United States, you know people
used to dislike the United States but now they are beginning to respect it,
and they are very happy about the way that the US is leading the war against
terror. And the prime example, well in fact the only serious example, the
others are a joke, is Algeria. Turns out that Algeria is very enthusiastic
about the US war against terror. The person who wrote the article is an
expert on Africa. He must know that Algeria is one of the most vicious
terrorist states in the world and has been carrying out horrendous terror
against its own population in the past couple of years, in fact. For a
while, this was under wraps. But it was finally exposed in France by
defectors from the Algerian army. It’s all over the place there and in
England and so on. But here, we’re very proud because one of the worst
terrorist states in the world is now enthusiastically welcoming the US war
on terror and in fact is cheering on the United States to lead the war. That
shows how popular we are getting.

And if you look at the coalition that is being formed against terror it
tells you a lot more. A leading member of the coalition is Russia which is
delighted to have the United States support its murderous terrorist war in
Chechnya instead of occasionally criticizing it in the background. China is
joining enthusiastically. It’s delighted to have support for the atrocities
it’s carrying out in western China against, what it called, Muslim
secessionists. Turkey, as I mentioned, is very happy with the war against
terror. They are experts. Algeria, Indonesia delighted to have even more US
support for atrocities it is carrying out in Ache and elsewhere. Now we can
run through the list, the list of the states that have joined the coalition
against terror is quite impressive. They have a characteristic in common.
They are certainly among the leading terrorist states in the world. And they
happen to be led by the world champion.

What is Terrorism?

Well that brings us back to the question, what is terrorism? I have been
assuming we understand it. Well, what is it? Well, there happen to be some
easy answers to this. There is an official definition. You can find it in
the US code or in US army manuals. A brief statement of it taken from a US
army manual, is fair enough, is that terror is the calculated use of
violence or the threat of violence to attain political or religious
ideological goals through intimidation, coercion, or instilling fear. That’s
terrorism. That’s a fair enough definition. I think it is reasonable to
accept that. The problem is that it can’t be accepted because if you accept
that, all the wrong consequences follow. For example, all the consequences I
have just been reviewing. Now there is a major effort right now at the UN to
try to develop a comprehensive treaty on terrorism. When Kofi Annan got the
Nobel prize the other day, you will notice he was reported as saying that we
should stop wasting time on this and really get down to it.

But there’s a problem. If you use the official definition of terrorism in
the comprehensive treaty you are going to get completely the wrong results.
So that can’t be done. In fact, it is even worse than that. If you take a
look at the definition of Low Intensity Warfare which is official US policy
you find that it is a very close paraphrase of what I just read. In fact,
Low Intensity Conflict is just another name for terrorism. That’s why all
countries, as far as I know, call whatever horrendous acts they are carrying
out, counter terrorism. We happen to call it Counter Insurgency or Low
Intensity Conflict. So that’s a serious problem. You can’t use the actual
definitions. You’ve got to carefully find a definition that doesn’t have all
the wrong consequences.

Why did the United States and Israel Vote Against a Major Resolution
Condemning Terrorism?

There are some other problems. Some of them came up in December 1987, at the
peak of the first war on terrorism, that’s when the furor over the plague
was peaking. The United Nations General Assembly passed a very strong
resolution against terrorism, condemning the plague in the strongest terms,
calling on every state to fight against it in every possible way. It passed
unanimously. One country, Honduras abstained. Two votes against; the usual
two, United States and Israel. Why should the United States and Israel vote
against a major resolution condemning terrorism in the strongest terms, in
fact pretty much the terms that the Reagan administration was using? Well,
there is a reason. There is one paragraph in that long resolution which says
that nothing in this resolution infringes on the rights of people struggling
against racist and colonialist regimes or foreign military occupation to
continue with their resistance with the assistance of others, other states,
states outside in their just cause. Well, the United States and Israel can’t
accept that. The main reason that they couldn’t at the time was because of
South Africa. South Africa was an ally, officially called an ally. There was
a terrorist force in South Africa. It was called the African National
Congress. They were a terrorist force officially. South Africa in contrast
was an ally and we certainly couldn’t support actions by a terrorist group
struggling against a racist regime. That would be impossible.

And of course there is another one. Namely the Israeli occupied territories,
now going into its 35th year. Supported primarily by the United States in
blocking a diplomatic settlement for 30 years now, still is. And you can’t
have that. There is another one at the time. Israel was occupying Southern
Lebanon and was being combated by what the US calls a terrorist force,
Hizbullah, which in fact succeeded in driving Israel out of Lebanon. And we
can’t allow anyone to struggle against a military occupation when it is one
that we support so therefore the US and Israel had to vote against the major
UN resolution on terrorism. And I mentioned before that a US vote against…is
essentially a veto. Which is only half the story. It also vetoes it from
history. So none of this was ever reported and none of it appeared in the
annals of terrorism. If you look at the scholarly work on terrorism and so
on, nothing that I just mentioned appears. The reason is that it has got the
wrong people holding the guns. You have to carefully hone the definitions
and the scholarship and so on so that you come out with the right
conclusions; otherwise it is not respectable scholarship and honorable
journalism. Well, these are some of problems that are hampering the effort
to develop a comprehensive treaty against terrorism. Maybe we should have an
academic conference or something to try to see if we can figure out a way of
defining terrorism so that it comes out with just the right answers, not the
wrong answers. That won’t be easy.

4. What are the Origins of the September 11 Crime?

Well, let’s drop that and turn to the 4th question, What are the origins of
the September 11 crimes? Here we have to make a distinction between 2
categories which shouldn’t be run together. One is the actual agents of the
crime, the other is kind of a reservoir of at least sympathy, sometimes
support that they appeal to even among people who very much oppose the
criminals and the actions. And those are 2 different things.

Category 1: The Likely Perpetrators

Well, with regard to the perpetrators, in a certain sense we are not really
clear. The United States either is unable or unwilling to provide any
evidence, any meaningful evidence. There was a sort of a play a week or two
ago when Tony Blair was set up to try to present it. I don’t exactly know
what the purpose of this was. Maybe so that the US could look as though it’s
holding back on some secret evidence that it can’t reveal or that Tony Blair
could strike proper Churchillian poses or something or other. Whatever the
PR [public relations] reasons were, he gave a presentation which was in
serious circles considered so absurd that it was barely even mentioned. So
the Wall Street Journal, for example, one of the more serious papers had a
small story on page 12, I think, in which they pointed out that there was
not much evidence and then they quoted some high US official as saying that
it didn’t matter whether there was any evidence because they were going to
do it anyway. So why bother with the evidence? The more ideological press,
like the New York Times and others, they had big front-page headlines. But
the Wall Street Journal reaction was reasonable and if you look at the
so-called evidence you can see why. But let’s assume that it’s true. It is
astonishing to me how weak the evidence was. I sort of thought you could do
better than that without any intelligence service [audience laughter]. In
fact, remember this was after weeks of the most intensive investigation in
history of all the intelligence services of the western world working
overtime trying to put something together. And it was a prima facie, it was
a very strong case even before you had anything. And it ended up about where
it started, with a prima facie case. So let’s assume that it is true. So
let’s assume that, it looked obvious the first day, still does, that the
actual perpetrators come from the radical Islamic, here called,
fundamentalist networks of which the bin Laden network is undoubtedly a
significant part. Whether they were involved or not nobody knows. It doesn’t
really matter much.

Where did they come from?

That’s the background, those networks. Well, where do they come from? We
know all about that. Nobody knows about that better than the CIA because it
helped organize them and it nurtured them for a long time. They were brought
together in the 1980’s actually by the CIA and its associates elsewhere:
Pakistan, Britain, France, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, China was involved, they may
have been involved a little bit earlier, maybe by 1978. The idea was to try
to harass the Russians, the common enemy. According to President Carter’s
National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, the US got involved in mid
1979. Do you remember, just to put the dates right, that Russia invaded
Afghanistan in December 1979. Ok. According to Brzezinski, the US support
for the mujahedin fighting against the government began 6 months earlier. He
is very proud of that. He says we drew the Russians into, in his words, an
Afghan trap, by supporting the mujahedin, getting them to invade, getting
them into the trap. Now then we could develop this terrific mercenary army.
Not a small one, maybe 100,000 men or so bringing together the best killers
they could find, who were radical Islamist fanatics from around North
Africa, Saudi Arabia….anywhere they could find them. They were often called
the Afghanis but many of them, like bin Laden, were not Afghans. They were
brought by the CIA and its friends from elsewhere. Whether Brzezinski is
telling the truth or not, I don’t know. He may have been bragging, he is
apparently very proud of it, knowing the consequences incidentally. But
maybe it’s true. We’ll know someday if the documents are ever released.
Anyway, that’s his perception. By January 1980 it is not even in doubt that
the US was organizing the Afghanis and this massive military force to try to
cause the Russians maximal trouble. It was a legitimate thing for the
Afghans to fight the Russian invasion. But the US intervention was not
helping the Afghans. In fact, it helped destroy the country and much more.
The Afghanis, so called, had their own...it did force the Russians to
withdrew, finally. Although many analysts believe that it probably delayed
their withdrawal because they were trying to get out of it. Anyway,
whatever, they did withdraw.

Meanwhile, the terrorist forces that the CIA was organizing, arming, and
training were pursuing their own agenda, right away. It was no secret. One
of the first acts was in 1981 when they assassinated the President of Egypt,
who was one of the most enthusiastic of their creators. In 1983, one suicide
bomber, who may or may not have been connected, it’s pretty shadowy, nobody
knows.  But one suicide bomber drove the US army-military out of Lebanon.
And it continued. They have their own agenda. The US was happy to mobilize
them to fight its cause but meanwhile they are doing their own thing. They
were clear very about it. After 1989, when the Russians had withdrawn, they
simply turned elsewhere. Since then they have been fighting in Chechnya,
Western China, Bosnia, Kashmir, South East Asia, North Africa, all over the
place.

The Are Telling Us What They Think

They are telling us just what they think. The United States wants to silence
the one free television channel in the Arab world because it’s broadcasting
a whole range of things from Powell over to Osama bin Laden. So the US is
now joining the repressive regimes of the Arab world that try to shut it up.
But if you listen to it, if you listen to what bin Laden says, it’s worth
it. There is plenty of interviews. And there are plenty of interviews by
leading Western reporters, if you don’t want to listen to his own voice,
Robert Fisk and others. And what he has been saying is pretty consistent for
a long time. He’s not the only one but maybe he is the most eloquent. It’s
not only consistent over a long time, it is consistent with their actions.
So there is every reason to take it seriously. Their prime enemy is what
they call the corrupt and oppressive authoritarian brutal regimes of the
Arab world and when the say that they get quite a resonance in the region.
They also want to defend and they want to replace them by properly Islamist
governments. That’s where they lose the people of the region. But up till
then, they are with them. From their point of view, even Saudi Arabia, the
most extreme fundamentalist state in the world, I suppose, short of the
Taliban, which is an offshoot, even that’s not Islamist enough for them. Ok,
at that point, they get very little support, but up until that point they
get plenty of support. Also they want to defend Muslims elsewhere. They hate
the Russians like poison, but as soon as the Russians pulled out of
Afghanistan, they stopped carrying out terrorist acts in Russia as they had
been doing with CIA backing before that within Russia, not just in
Afghanistan. They did move over to Chechnya. But there they are defending
Muslims against a Russian invasion. Same with all the other places I
mentioned. From their point of view, they are defending the Muslims against
the infidels. And they are very clear about it and that is what they have
been doing.

Why did they turn against the United States?

Now why did they turn against the United States? Well that had to do with
what they call the US invasion of Saudi Arabia. In 1990, the US established
permanent military bases in Saudi Arabia which from their point of view is
comparable to a Russian invasion of Afghanistan except that Saudi Arabia is
way more important. That’s the home of the holiest sites of Islam. And that
is when their activities turned against the Unites States. If you recall, in
1993 they tried to blow up the World Trade Center. Got part of the way, but
not the whole way and that was only part of it. The plans were to blow up
the UN building, the Holland and Lincoln tunnels, the FBI building. I think
there were others on the list. Well, they sort of got part way, but not all
the way. One person who is jailed for that, finally, among the people who
were jailed, was a Egyptian cleric who had been brought into the United
States over the objections of the Immigration Service, thanks to the
intervention of the CIA which wanted to help out their friend. A couple
years later he was blowing up the World Trade Center. And this has been
going on all over. I’m not going to run through the list but it’s, if you
want to understand it, it’s consistent. It’s a consistent picture. It’s
described in words. It’s revealed in practice for 20 years. There is no
reason not to take it seriously. That’s the first category, the likely
perpetrators.

Category 2: What about the reservoir of support?

What about the reservoir of support? Well, it’s not hard to find out what
that is. One of the good things that has happened since September 11 is that
some of the press and some of the discussion has begun to open up to some of
these things. The best one to my knowledge is the Wall Street Journal which
right away began to run, within a couple of days, serious reports, searching
serious reports, on the reasons why the people of the region, even though
they hate bin Laden and despise everything he is doing, nevertheless support
him in many ways and even regard him as the conscience of Islam, as one
said. Now the Wall Street Journal and others, they are not surveying public
opinion. They are surveying the opinion of their friends: bankers,
professionals, international lawyers, businessmen tied to the United States,
people who they interview in McDonalds restaurant, which is an elegant
restaurant there, wearing fancy American clothes. That’s the people they are
interviewing because they want to find out what their attitudes are. And
their attitudes are very explicit and very clear and in many ways consonant
with the message of bin Laden and others. They are very angry at the United
States because of its support of authoritarian and brutal regimes; its
intervention to block any move towards democracy; its intervention to stop
economic development; its policies of devastating the civilian societies of
Iraq while strengthening Saddam Hussein; and they remember, even if we
prefer not to, that the United States and Britain supported Saddam Hussein
right through his worst atrocities, including the gassing of the Kurds, bin
Laden brings that up constantly, and they know it even if we don’t want to.
And of course their support for the Israeli military occupation which is
harsh and brutal. It is now in its 35th year. The US has been providing the
overwhelming economic, military, and diplomatic support for it, and still
does. And they know that and they don’t like it. Especially when that is
paired with US policy towards Iraq, towards the Iraqi civilian society which
is getting destroyed. Ok, those are the reasons roughly. And when bin Laden
gives those reasons, people recognize it and support it.

Now that’s not the way people here like to think about it, at least educated
liberal opinion. They like the following line which has been all over the
press, mostly from left liberals, incidentally. I have not done a real study
but I think right wing opinion has generally been more honest. But if you
look at say at the New York Times at the first op-ed they ran by Ronald
Steel, serious left liberal intellectual. He asks Why do they hate us? This
is the same day, I think, that the Wall Street Journal was running the
survey on why they hate us. So he says “They hate us because we champion a
new world order of capitalism, individualism, secularism, and democracy that
should be the norm everywhere.” That’s why they hate us. The same day the
Wall Street Journal is surveying the opinions of bankers, professionals,
international lawyers and saying `look, we hate you because you are blocking
democracy, you are preventing economic development, you are supporting
brutal regimes, terrorist regimes and you are doing these horrible things in
the region.’ A couple days later, Anthony Lewis, way out on the left,
explained that the terrorist seek only “apocalyptic nihilism,” nothing more
and nothing we do matters. The only consequence of our actions, he says,
that could be harmful is that it makes it harder for Arabs to join in the
coalition’s anti-terrorism effort. But beyond that, everything we do is
irrelevant.

Well, you know, that’s got the advantage of being sort of comforting. It
makes you feel good about yourself, and how wonderful you are. It enables us
to evade the consequences of our actions. It has a couple of defects. One is
it is at total variance with everything we know. And another defect is that
it is a perfect way to ensure that you escalate the cycle of violence. If
you want to live with your head buried in the sand and pretend they hate us
because they’re opposed to globalization, that’s why they killed Sadat 20
years ago, and fought the Russians, tried to blow up the World Trade Center
in 1993. And these are all people who are in the midst of … corporate
globalization but if you want to believe that, yeh…comforting. And it is a
great way to make sure that violence escalates. That’s tribal violence. You
did something to me, I’ll do something worse to you. I don’t care what the
reasons are. We just keep going that way. And that’s a way to do it. Pretty
much straight, left-liberal opinion.

5. What are the Policy Options?

What are the policy options? Well, there are a number. A narrow policy
option from the beginning was to follow the advice of really far out
radicals like the Pope [audience laughter]. The Vatican immediately said
look it’s a horrible terrorist crime. In the case of crime, you try to find
the perpetrators, you bring them to justice, you try them. You don’t kill
innocent civilians. Like if somebody robs my house and I think the guy who
did it is probably in the neighborhood across the street, I don’t go out
with an assault rifle and kill everyone in that neighborhood. That’s not the
way you deal with crime, whether it’s a small crime like this one or really
massive one like the US terrorist war against Nicaragua, even worse ones and
others in between. And there are plenty of precedents for that. In fact, I
mentioned a precedent, Nicaragua, a lawful, a law abiding state, that’s why
presumably we had to destroy it, which followed the right principles. Now of
course, it didn’t get anywhere because it was running up against a power
that wouldn’t allow lawful procedures to be followed. But if the United
States tried to pursue them, nobody would stop them. In fact, everyone would
applaud. And there are plenty of other precedents.IRA Bombs in London
When the IRA set off bombs in London, which is pretty serious business,
Britain could have, apart from the fact that it was unfeasible, let’s put
that aside, one possible response would have been to destroy Boston which is
the source of most of the financing. And of course to wipe out West Belfast.
Well, you know, quite apart from the feasibility, it would have been
criminal idiocy. The way to deal with it was pretty much what they did. You
know, find the perpetrators; bring them to trial; and look for the reasons.
Because these things don’t come out of nowhere. They come from something.
Whether it is a crime in the streets or a monstrous terrorist crime or
anything else. There’s reasons. And usually if you look at the reasons, some
of them are legitimate and ought to be addressed, independently of the
crime, they ought to be addressed because they are legitimate. And that’s
the way to deal with it. There are many such examples.

But there are problems with that. One problem is that the United States does
not recognize the jurisdiction of international institutions. So it can’t go
to them. It has rejected the jurisdiction of the World Court. It has refused
to ratify the International Criminal Court. It is powerful enough to set up
a new court if it wants so that wouldn’t stop anything. But there is a
problem with any kind of a court, mainly you need evidence. You go to any
kind of court, you need some kind of evidence. Not Tony Blair talking about
it on television. And that’s very hard. It may be impossible to find.

Leaderless Resistance

You know, it could be that the people who did it, killed themselves. Nobody
knows this better than the CIA. These are decentralized, nonhierarchic
networks. They follow a principle that is called Leaderless Resistance.
That’s the principle that has been developed by the Christian Right
terrorists in the United States. It’s called Leaderless Resistance. You have
small groups that do things. They don’t talk to anybody else. There is a
kind of general background of assumptions and then you do it. Actually
people in the anti war movement are very familiar with it. We used to call
it affinity groups. If you assume correctly that whatever group you are in
is being penetrated by the FBI, when something serious is happening, you
don’t do it in a meeting. You do it with some people you know and trust, an
affinity group and then it doesn’t get penetrated. That’s one of the reasons
why the FBI has never been able to figure out what’s going on in any of the
popular movements. And other intelligence agencies are the same. They can’t.
That’s leaderless resistance or affinity groups, and decentralized networks
are extremely hard to penetrate. And it’s quite possible that they just
don’t know. When Osama bin Laden claims he wasn’t involved, that’s entirely
possible. In fact, it’s pretty hard to imagine how a guy in a cave in
Afghanistan, who doesn’t even have a radio or a telephone could have planned
a highly sophisticated operation like that. Chances are it’s part of the
background. You know, like other leaderless resistance terrorist groups.
Which means it’s going to be extremely difficult to find evidence.

Establishing Credibility

And the US doesn’t want to present evidence because it wants to be able to
do it, to act without evidence. That’s a crucial part of the reaction. You
will notice that the US did not ask for Security Council authorization which
they probably could have gotten this time, not for pretty reasons, but
because the other permanent members of the Security Council are also
terrorist states. They are happy to join a coalition against what they call
terror, namely in support of their own terror. Like Russia wasn’t going to
veto, they love it. So the US probably could have gotten Security Council
authorization but it didn’t want it. And it didn’t want it because it
follows a long-standing principle which is not George Bush, it was explicit
in the Clinton administration, articulated and goes back much further and
that is that we have the right to act unilaterally. We don’t want
international authorization because we act unilaterally and therefore we
don’t want it. We don’t care about evidence. We don’t care about
negotiation. We don’t care about treaties. We are the strongest guy around;
the toughest thug on the block. We do what we want. Authorization is a bad
thing and therefore must be avoided. There is even a name for it in the
technical literature. It’s called establishing credibility. You have to
establish credibility. That’s an important factor in many policies. It was
the official reason given for the war in the Balkans and the most plausible
reason.

You want to know what credibility means, ask your favorite Mafia Don. He’ll
explain to you what credibility means. And it’s the same in international
affairs, except it’s talked about in universities using big words, and that
sort of thing. But it’s basically the same principle. And it makes sense.
And it usually works. The main historian who has written about this in the
last couple years is Charles Tilly with a book called Coercion, Capital, and
European States. He points out that violence has been the leading principle
of Europe for hundreds of years and the reason is because it works. You
know, it’s very reasonable. It almost always works. When you have an
overwhelming predominance of violence and a culture of violence behind it.
So therefore it makes sense to follow it. Well, those are all problems in
pursuing lawful paths. And if you did try to follow them you’d really open
some very dangerous doors. Like the US is demanding that the Taliban hand
over Osama bin Laden. And they are responding in a way which is regarded as
totally absurd and outlandish in the west, namely they are saying, Ok, but
first give us some evidence. In the west, that is considered ludicrous. It’s
a sign of their criminality. How can they ask for evidence? I mean if
somebody asked us to hand someone over, we’d do it tomorrow. We wouldn’t ask
for any evidence. [crowd laughter].

Haiti

In fact it is easy to prove that. We don’t have to make up cases. So for
example, for the last several years, Haiti has been requesting the United
States to extradite Emmanuel Constant. He is a major killer. He is one of
the leading figures in the slaughter of maybe 4000 or 5000 people in the
years in the mid 1990’s, under the military junta, which incidentally was
being, not so tacitly, supported by the Bush and the Clinton administrations
contrary to illusions. Anyway he is a leading killer. They have plenty of
evidence. No problem about evidence. He has already been brought to trial
and sentenced in Haiti and they are asking the United States to turn him
over. Well, I mean do your own research. See how much discussion there has
been of that. Actually Haiti renewed the request a couple of weeks ago. It
wasn’t even mentioned. Why should we turn over a convicted killer who was
largely responsible for killing 4000 or 5000 people a couple of years ago.
In fact, if we do turn him over, who knows what he would say. Maybe he’ll
say that he was being funded and helped by the CIA, which is probably true.
We don’t want to open that door. And he is not he only one.

Costa Rica

For the last about 15 years, Costa Rica which is the democratic
prize, has been trying to get the United States to hand over a John Hull, a
US land owner in Costa Rica, who they charge with terrorist crimes. He was
using his land, they claim with good evidence as a base for the US war
against Nicaragua, which is not a controversial conclusion, remember. There
is the World Court and Security Council behind it. So they have been trying
to get the United States to hand him over. Hear about that one? No.
They did actually confiscate the land of another American landholder, John
Hamilton. Paid compensation, offered compensation. The US refused. Turned
his land over into a national park because his land was also being used as a
base for the US attack against Nicaragua. Costa Rica was punished for that
one. They were punished by withholding aid. We don’t accept that kind of
insubordination from allies. And we can go on. If you open the door to
questions about extradition it leads in very unpleasant directions. So that
can’t be done.

Reactions in Afghanistan

Well, what about the reactions in Afghanistan. The initial proposal, the
initial rhetoric was for a massive assault which would kill many people
visibly and also an attack on other countries in the region. Well the Bush
administration wisely backed off from that. They were being told by every
foreign leader, NATO, everyone else, every specialist, I suppose, their own
intelligence agencies that that would be the stupidest thing they could
possibly do. It would simply be like opening recruiting offices for bin
Laden all over the region. That’s exactly what he wants. And it would be
extremely harmful to their own interests. So they backed off that one. And
they are turning to what I described earlier which is a kind of silent
genocide. It’s a…. well, I already said what I think about it. I don’t think
anything more has to be said. You can figure it out if you do the
arithmetic.
A sensible proposal which is kind of on the verge of being considered, but
it has been sensible all along, and it is being raised, called for by
expatriate Afghans and allegedly tribal leaders internally, is for a UN
initiative, which would keep the Russians and Americans out of it, totally.
These are the 2 countries that have practically wiped the country out in the
last 20 years. They should be out of it. They should provide massive
reparations. But that’s their only role. A UN initiative to bring together
elements within Afghanistan that would try to construct something from the
wreckage. It’s conceivable that that could work, with plenty of support and
no interference. If the US insists on running it, we might as well quit. We
have a historical record on that one.

You will notice that the name of this operation….remember that at first it
was going to be a Crusade but they backed off that because PR (public
relations) agents told them that that wouldn’t work [audience laughter]. And
then it was going to be Infinite Justice, but the PR agents said, wait a
minute, you are sounding like you are divinity. So that wouldn’t work. And
then it was changed to enduring freedom. We know what that means. But nobody
has yet pointed out, fortunately, that there is an ambiguity there. To
endure means to suffer. [audience laughter]. And a there are plenty of
people around the world who have endured what we call freedom. Again,
fortunately we have a very well-behaved educated class so nobody has yet
pointed out this ambiguity. But if its done there will be another problem to
deal with. But if we can back off enough so that some more or less
independent agency, maybe the UN, maybe credible NGO’s (non governmental
organizations) can take the lead in trying to reconstruct something from the
wreckage, with plenty of assistance and we owe it to them. Them maybe
something would come out. Beyond that, there are other problems.

An Easy Way To Reduce The Level Of Terror

We certainly want to reduce the level of terror, certainly not escalate it.
There is one easy way to do that and therefore it is never discussed. Namely
stop participating in it. That would automatically reduce the level of
terror enormously. But that you can’t discuss. Well we ought to make it
possible to discuss it. So that’s one easy way to reduce the level of
terror.
Beyond that, we should rethink the kinds of policies, and Afghanistan is not
the only one, in which we organize and train terrorist armies. That has
effects. We’re seeing some of these effects now. September 11th is one.

Rethink it.

Rethink the policies that are creating a reservoir of support. Exactly what
the bankers, lawyers and so on are saying in places like Saudi Arabia. On
the streets it’s much more bitter, as you can imagine. That’s possible. You
know, those policies aren’t graven in stone.

And further more there are opportunities. It’s hard to find many rays of
light in the last couple of weeks but one of them is that there is an
increased openness. Lots of issues are open for discussion, even in elite
circles, certainly among the general public, that were not a couple of weeks
ago. That’s dramatically the case. I mean, if a newspaper like USA Today can
run a very good article, a serious article, on life in the Gaza Strip…there
has been a change. The things I mentioned in the Wall Street Journal…that’s
change. And among the general public, I think there is much more openness
and willingness to think about things that were under the rug and so on.
These are opportunities and they should be used, at least by people who
accept the goal of trying to reduce the level of violence and terror,
including potential threats that are extremely severe and could make even
September 11th pale into insignificance. Thanks.

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