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This transcript comes courtesy of the BBC's Newsnight. The original is
at:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/events/newsnight/newsid_1645000/1645527.stm




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generated live for Newsnight. It has been checked against the programme
as broadcast, however Newsnight can accept no responsibility for any
factual inaccuracies. We will be happy to correct serious errors.

Has someone been sitting on the FBI? 6/11/01

 GREG PALAST:
The CIA and Saudi Arabia, the Bushes and the Bin Ladens. Did their
connections cause America to turn a blind eye to terrorism?

UNNAMED MAN:
There is a hidden agenda at the very highest levels of our government.

JOE TRENTO, (AUTHOR, "SECRET HISTORY OF THE CIA"):
The sad thing is that thousands of Americans had to die needlessly.

PETER ELSNER:
How can it be that the former President of the US and the current
President of the US have business dealings with characters that need to
be investigated?

PALAST:
In the eight weeks since the attacks, over 1,000 suspects and potential
witnesses have been detained. Yet, just days after the hijackers took
off from Boston aiming for the Twin Towers, a special charter flight out
of the same airport whisked 11 members of Osama Bin Laden's family off
to Saudi Arabia. That did not concern the White House.

Their official line is that the Bin Ladens are above suspicion - apart
from Osama, the black sheep, who they say hijacked the family name.
That's fortunate for the Bush family and the Saudi royal household,
whose links with the Bin Ladens could otherwise prove embarrassing. But
Newsnight has obtained evidence that the FBI was on the trail of other
members of the] Bin Laden family for links to terrorist organisations
before and after September 11th.

This document is marked "Secret". Case ID - 199-Eye WF 213 589. 199 is
FBI code for case type. 9 would be murder. 65 would be espionage. 199
means national security. WF indicates Washington field office special
agents were investigating ABL - because of it's relationship with the
World Assembly of Muslim Youth, WAMY - a suspected terrorist
organisation. ABL is Abdullah Bin Laden, president and treasurer of
WAMY.

This is the sleepy Washington suburb of Falls Church, Virginia where
almost every home displays the Stars and Stripes. On this unremarkable
street, at 3411 Silver Maple Place, we located the former home of
Abdullah and another brother, Omar, also an FBI suspect. It's
conveniently close to WAMY. The World Assembly of Muslim Youth is in
this building, in a little room in the basement at 5613 Leesburg Pike.
And here, just a couple blocks down the road at 5913 Leesburg, is where
four of the hijackers that attacked New York and Washington are listed
as having lived.

The US Treasury has not frozen WAMY's assets, and when we talked to
them, they insisted they are a charity. Yet, just weeks ago, Pakistan
expelled WAMY operatives. And India claimed that WAMY was funding an
organisation linked to bombings in Kashmir. And the Philippines military
has accused WAMY of funding Muslim insurgency. The FBI did look into
WAMY, but, for some reason, agents were pulled off the trail.

TRENTO:
The FBI wanted to investigate these guys. This is not something that
they didn't want to do - they wanted to, they weren't permitted to.

PALAST:
The secret file fell into the hands of national security expert, Joe
Trento. The Washington spook-tracker has been looking into the FBI's
allegations about WAMY.

TRENTO:
They've had connections to Osama Bin Laden's people. They've had
connections to Muslim cultural and financial aid groups that have
terrorist connections. They fit the pattern of groups that the Saudi
royal family and Saudi community of princes - the 20,000 princes - have
funded who've engaged in terrorist activity.

Now, do I know that WAMY has done anything that's illegal? No, I don't
know that. Do I know that as far back as 1996 the FBI was very concerned
about this organisation? I do.

PALAST:
Newsnight has uncovered a long history of shadowy connections between
the State Department, the CIA and the Saudis. The former head of the
American visa bureau in Jeddah is Michael Springman.
MICHAEL SPRINGMAN:
In Saudi Arabia I was repeatedly ordered by high level State Dept
officials to issue visas to unqualified applicants. These were,
essentially, people who had no ties either to Saudi Arabia or to their
own country. I complained bitterly at the time there. I returned to the
US, I complained to the State Dept here, to the General Accounting
Office, to the Bureau of Diplomatic Security and to the Inspector
General's office. I was met with silence.

PALAST:
By now, Bush Sr, once CIA director, was in the White House. Springman
was shocked to find this wasn't visa fraud. Rather, State and CIA were
playing "the Great Game".

SPRINGMAN:
What I was protesting was, in reality, an effort to bring recruits,
rounded up by Osama Bin Laden, to the US for terrorist training by the
CIA. They would then be returned to Afghanistan to fight against the
then-Soviets.

The attack on the World Trade Center in 1993 did not shake the State
Department's faith in the Saudis, nor did the attack on American
barracks at Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia three years later, in which 19
Americans died. FBI agents began to feel their investigation was being
obstructed. Would you be surprised to find out that FBI agents are a bit
frustrated that they can't be looking into some Saudi connections?

MICHAEL WILDES, ( LAWYER)
I would never be surprised with that. They're cut off at the hip
sometimes by supervisors or given shots that are being called from
Washington at the highest levels.

PALAST:
I showed lawyer Michael Wildes our FBI documents. One of the Khobar
Towers bombers was represented by Wildes, who thought he had useful
intelligence for the US. He also represents a Saudi diplomat who
defected to the USA with 14,000 documents which Wildes claims implicates
Saudi citizens in financing terrorism and more. Wildes met with FBI men
who told him they were not permitted to read all the documents.
Nevertheless, he tried to give them to the agents.

WILDES:
"Take these with you. We're not going to charge for the copies. Keep
them. Do something with them. Get some bad guys with them." They
refused.

PALAST:
In the hall of mirrors that is the US intelligence community, Wildes, a
former US federal attorney, said the FBI field agents wanted the
documents, but they were told to "see no evil."

WILDES:
You see a difference between the rank-and-file counter-intelligence
agents, who are regarded by some as the motor pool of the FBI, who drive
following diplomats, and the people who are getting the shots called at
the highest level of our government, who have a different agenda - it's
unconscionable.

PALAST:
State wanted to keep the pro-American Saudi royal family in control of
the world's biggest oil spigot, even at the price of turning a blind eye
to any terrorist connection so long as America was safe. In recent
years, CIA operatives had other reasons for not exposing Saudi-backed
suspects.

TRENTO:
If you recruited somebody who is a member of a terrorist organisation,
who happens to make his way here to the US, and even though you're not
in touch with that person anymore but you have used him in the past, it
would be unseemly if he were arrested by the FBI and word got back that
he'd once been on the payroll of the CIA. What we're talking about is
blow-back. What we're talking about is embarrassing, career-destroying
blow-back for intelligence officials.

PALAST:
Does the Bush family also have to worry about political blow-back? The
younger Bush made his first million 20 years ago with an oil company
partly funded by Salem Bin Laden's chief US representative. Young George
also received fees as director of a subsidiary of Carlyle Corporation, a
little known private company which has, in just a few years of its
founding, become one of Americas biggest defence contractors. His
father, Bush Senior, is also a paid advisor. And what became
embarrassing was the revelation that the Bin Ladens held a stake in
Carlyle, sold just after September 11.

ELSNER:
You have a key relationship between the Saudis and the former President
of the US who happens to be the father of the current President of the
US. And you have all sorts of questions about where does policy begin
and where does good business and good profits for the company, Carlyle,
end?

PALAST:
I received a phone call from a high-placed member of a US intelligence
agency. He tells me that while there's always been constraints on
investigating Saudis, under George Bush it's gotten much worse. After
the elections, the agencies were told to "back off" investigating the
Bin Ladens and Saudi royals, and that angered agents. I'm told that
since September 11th the policy has been reversed. FBI headquarters told
us they could not comment on our findings. A spokesman said: "There are
lots of things that only the intelligence community knows and that
no-one else ought to know.
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