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a few things here are very interesting - let me point 2 out -
>> The Palestinian Arabs of today, Muslims and Christians,....
So religion is not a part of this ethnic identity - and yet it implies that
none of the aboriginal inhabitants became Jews. this is specious at best.
if you are talking about foreign cultural invasion - then Islam invaded the
region, Christianity invaded the region, and Judaism invaded the region
( although 2 of these 3 had their genesis in the region, but why quibble
with the facts)
So if the Palestinians are something other than the Islamic Arabs who came
later, then the arab/muslim influence is just as much a cultural invasion as
the Jewish, no?
maybe more so, since Judaism traces itself to the region, and Islam does
not...no?
if not can explain why not?
>> But the fact remains that the major portion of the territory, now
>> called Israel, is still legitimately belongs to the indigenous
>> Palestinian people.
this is just factually inaccurate - the major portion of the territory that
was Palestine is now called Jordan, and is an Islamic homeland for the
Palestinian people.
again - if you think what I am saying is incorrect, please point out where
and how... thanks
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> From: eric stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 10:18:14 -0800
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> Subject: [CTRL] WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS?
>
> -Caveat Lector-
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> http://www.ummah.net/unity/palestine/history/palwhopal.html
>
> WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS?
>
> Not only did the Zionists devote extraordinary efforts to defeat
> the Palestinians and destroy their society, but also they denied
> their existence.
>
> Israel Zangwill, a founder of Zionism, claimed that Palestine was
> ?a land without people, waiting for people without a land.?(Israel
> Zangwill, ?The Return to Palestine?, New Liberal Review,II, Dec.
> 1901, p.627) But later on he came to admit that, ?There is,
> however, a difficulty from which the Zionist dares not avert his
> eyes, though he does not like to face...Palestine proper has
> already its own inhabitants.? (?The Voice of Jerusalem?, London,
> 1920, p.88) [mentioned in F&F, p.4]
>
> The earliest Zionist colonialists in Palestine knew that the land
> they are settling on was inhabited. Christopher Sykes, pro-Zionist
> historian, said in his ?Crossroads to Israel 1917-1948? that ?This
> is the problem with Palestine, it was inhabited.? But some chose to
> ignore this minor problem while others tried to overcome it.
>
> Herzl, the father of Zionism, believed that the native Palestinians
> would resist the takeover of their country and therefore
> recommended that they be dealt with through ?assured supremacy?,
> est. brutal force and military superiority. (Herzl, ?The Jewish
> State: a modern Solution to the Jewish Question?, Rita Searl, 1946,
> p.29) [quoted in Facts and Fables, by Clifford A. Wright, p.2] He
> preached that the Zionists should acquire the land of their choice
> by armed conquest.
>
> The denial of the Palestinian existence is well and alive until
> today, where the Palestinians who are Israeli citizens and living
> in Israel, are officially known as ?the Arabs of Israel?. This
> denial of the Palestinian existence is a wholesale dehumanization
> of a people. ?Who are the Palestinians?", exclaimed Golda Meir,
> Prime Minister of Israel, ?There was no such thing as a Palestinian
> people in Palestine. It was as though there was a Palestinian
> people and we came and threw them out and took their country from
> them. They did not exist.? (The London Sunday Times 15 June, 1969)
> [ quoted in Palestinians/ The Making of A People, by Baruch Kimmer
> & Joel S. Migdal]
>
> In 1982 during the invasion of Lebanon, Prime Minister Menachem
> Begin, described them as, ?two-legged beasts? in a speech in the
> Knesset. (Begin and the ?Beasts?, by Israeli journalist Amnon
> Kapeliout) [quoted in F&F, p.3]
>
> One of the basic facts of the Palestinian Arabs is that they exist,
> and have always existed and will continue to exist in spite of all
> the conspiracies that aim at liquidating them. The point from which
> their existence has been challenged arose in the war of 1948, which
> led to the physical dispossession of more than 800,000 of this
> indigenous population of Palestine. Palestine disappeared from the
> map and its people also disappeared from the mind and conscience of
> much of the world.
>
> But the fact remains that the major portion of the territory, now
> called Israel, is still legitimately belongs to the indigenous
> Palestinian people.
>
> WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS?
>
> The Palestinian Arabs of today, Muslims and Christians, are not, as
> popularly believed, the descendants of the Arabian desert
> conquerors of 1300 years ago. In fact, they are mainly the
> descendants of the original native population--Canaanites,
> Edomites, and Philistines. They were there when the Hebrews (of
> whom the Jews claim descent) invaded the land in about 1550 B.C.,
> and lived for a short period as the Biblical myths claims in fact
> there are no mention to the Hebrews domination except in the Old
> Testament.
>
> But if we accepted the Jewish legend for argument we will find that
> the native inhibitors of the lands survived the Israelites
> occupation, retained possession of a large part of the country.
> They remained there when the last Hebrew left the country nearly
> 2000 years ago. Then, they intermingled first with the Arabs in the
> seventh century, then with the Crusaders in the 11th century. They
> continued the occupation in their Arabaized character until the
> Zionism invasion in 1948.
>
> According to Ottoman sources, more than half a million people lived
> in Palestine in 1850. Of those 80% were Muslims, 10% were
> Christians, and 7% were Jews. (F&F, p.4, source Janet Abu-Lughod,
> ed. ?The Transformation of Palestine?, p.140) By 1914 the British
> estimated Palestine?s population at 689,272 of whom no more than
> 60,000 or 9% were Jews. (The Great Census of Palestine?s population
> 1922, p.142)
>
> The most accurate census at the time was the 1922 conducted by the
> British. Of the total 757,182 population, 78% were Muslims, 10%
> were Christians, 11% were Jews. 75% of the Jews were Europeans and
> their offspring. About 1% classified as others. The census did not
> include nearly 50,000 Bedouin in the Negev Desert.
>
> Now the Palestinian number is estimated at six million. But this
> could neither be accurate nor simply unreliable. The fact that an
> accurate census of the Palestinians has been impossible is a major
> symptom of their plight. It is not only their displacement in 1948,
> but also their continual and systematic displacement by Israel. In
> 1982 when Israel invaded southern Lebanon, it had forced the
> Palestinian even further from their homes, now occupied by Israel.
>
> Though some Zionist have acknowledged that Palestinians existed as
> persons, they have never acknowledged them as a nation.
>
> WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A NATION:
>
> To be a nation means to feel an intimate attachment to a homeland,
> perceiving their past, present and future to be inextricably linked
> with the land they hold dear. Also it means a group of people
> speaking a common language, dwelling in unbroken territorial
> continuity and possessing a common consciousness of their own
> unique historical development. And the only real title which any
> people has to its country comes from birth and continual possession
> of the land. This is the criterion that the common acceptance of
> humanity has set up as a universal principle. It is recognized as
> the basis of integrity and security of all nations and no just
> international order can be established in the world today on any
> other foundation.
>
> The Palestinians opposed from the beginning in 1880, the
> immigration of European Zionists to Palestine for the purpose of
> colonization. As early as 1891 Palestinian leaders demanded that
> Sultan Abdul Hamid II, ruler of Palestine, forbid the acquisition
> of land titles by European Zionists in Palestine. (Neville J.
> Mandel, ?The Arabs and Zionism Before WWI?)
>
> The Palestinian opposition to Zionism and the British Mandate and
> other rules before the Mandate, confirm that the Palestinians
> existed and developed into a people distinguishable from, but not
> without close ties to their neighbors.
>
> Of all the violent struggles in Palestine, three revolts have
> defined the modern history of the country?s Arab. The first was
> against the Egyptian empire builders who ruled the country for most
> of the 1830s. The second revolt, from 1936-39, was against the
> British Imperial rule and was the first real effort to demonstrate
> decisively this fledgling nation?s political will. The third was
> the Intifada which began in 1987. Its goal, like the rebellion in
> 1936, was to lay the foundation for political independence, against
> Israel. This sustained opposition to Zionism and sustained demand
> for independence cannot be dismissed as isolated acts of
> individuals unrepresentative of their community as a whole. The
> Palestinian actions and arguments were essentially nationalist.
> (Palestine and the Palestinians, by Nor Maslaha)
>
> The Intifada finally extracted a response from the world public
> opinion as it brought to light the enormity of the normal suffering
> inflicted on the Palestinian people under Israeli occupation. Since
> then the Palestinian people began to acquire the irrevocable status
> of a people dispossessed and under a brutal military occupation in
> international consciousness.
>
> PALESTINE RECOGNIZED:
>
> The Israeli scholar Y. Porath has shown that ?at the end of the
> Ottoman period the concept of Filastin was widespread among the
> educated Arab public, denoting either the whole Palestine or the
> Jerusalem Sanjak alone.? (Porath, ?The Emergence of the Palestinian
> National Movement?, 1929, Frank Cass, 1974, pp.8-9)
>
> When the Western Powers established the boundaries of ?mandated
> Palestine? they implicitly recognized the reality of Palestine and
> enhanced it as an area of special significance whose people were a
> people distinguishable from their neighbors. Palestine also was
> recognized by tourists. Baedeker?s famous guidebook, published in
> 1876, was entitled Palestine-Syria. Herzl, himself, in his letter
> to the Ottoman Sultan Abdul Hamid, referred to ?Palestine? and
> neither seemed to be confused by the term. Palestinians regarded it
> as their homeland and others recognized it to be so.
>
> The king-Crane Commission appointed by US President Woodrow Wilson
> submitted a report after the 1919 Versaille Peace Conference which
> said: ?If... the wishes of Palestinian population are to be
> decisive as to what to be done with Palestine, then it is to be
> remembered that the non-Jewish population of Palestine--nearly
> nine-tenths of the whole population--are emphatically against the
> Zionism program.? (Walter Laqueur and Barry Rubin, eds. ?The
> Israeli-Arab Reader: a Documentary History of the Middle East
> Conflict, Penguin 1984, p. 29) [quoted in F&F. p.8].
>
> FILASTIN, THE ARABIC NAME:
>
> The Arab name for Palestine, Filastin, was derived from the Latin
> Palaestina, In turn, the Latin term was derived from Philistina,
> the name given to the area by the ancient Philistines. When the
> Arabs arrived they named the territory Djund Filastin.
>
> Palestine?s geographic location, being at a crossroads between
> three continents, and its religious background made its history
> distinguishable from its surrounding region.
>
> Palestine has always been a country of farmers. Beginning with the
> settled agriculturists--the fellaheen or peasants--and their ties
> to the powerful land owning families that dominated rural economic
> and social life. It was peasants and landowners who put their stamp
> on day-to-day life in Palestine and who were the center of the
> bloody battles throughout the centuries.
>
> But for the Israelis to acknowledge the existence of the
> Palestinians is to be reminded that the fact of Israel?s existence
> is the dispossession of the Palestinian people.
>
>
>
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