-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Nurev Ind wrote:
> Party of Citizens wrote: > > > If chosen ones can coin the neologism, "antisemitic" can I not coin > > "prosemitic"? I want to be as approved of by the chosenites as > > possible. Tell me what a good prosemite would be like? > > POC > > Michael Hoffman, Bill Shannon, and YOU. Of course. > Prosemites are racists who hate Jews ( anti-semites ) and pretend that > they like Arabs, when all they really want is a venue to hate Jews. > > How's that " Doc "? Chuck U: That was pretty good. Got me so confused I don't know my prosemites from my antisemites any more. Must be your superior Chosenite reasoning. Anyway, send me another gross of bagle holes as they are really bringing in the shekels up here in the 'true north, strong and free'. Here is a secondary quote which is easily verified: "The latest Council of Jewish Federations demographic survey ... since 1985, most Jewish marriages have been intermarriages and the chance that the child of an intermarried couple will be raised as a Jew is only 28%" Now I think that if you look at conversion alone, any argument of biological-racial continuity from the Ancient Israelites goes out the window. Other than this individualistic conversion there were the mass conversions recorded in history of the Edomites under the Romans and much later, the Ashkenazi-Khazar conversion. What percentage of today's Jews are considered to be of Ahkenazi origin according to the Jewish encyclopedias, Encyclopedia Britannica, etc? What do the geneology/family tree references tell you? The oldest Jewish family tree from my quick search only goes back to the 1400's. What do you get? These short family trees are consistent with continuing conversion. Both ways, as the case of the famous dancing midget proves. Alrightee then, so God or G-d if you prefer is not a racist. That's good news. We all have a chance to be Israelites. Jesus Christ was 100% explicit: "I came only to find the lost sheep of Israel". What part of "only" do I not understand? Also He said "Hear O' Israel, the Lord our God is one" so forget about any nonsense that the Torah according to Jesus Christ is polytheistic. Also forget any nonsense that He invented a new religion or negated the ancient laws from Moses and the Patriarchs prior. "Not one jot or title" did He change. Now convince me that Jesus Christ was not the Torah personified. Try arguments from Schonfeld, "The Passover Plot", Maccoby, "The Myth Maker" and Cohn, "The Trial and Death of Jesus". Cohn, BTW was President of the Supreme Court of Israel. Surprise me. Give me an argument I have not heard. So far I can refute all of them. There is nothing in the Traditional Jewish Prayer Book that I can find which I disagree with. I don't recall any portion which says whether the Messiah prayed for is a Messiah of first coming or second coming. Do you? The De Sola Poole version also says "Judaism has never called for an unreasoning faith" and "The word Torah means teaching". So present us with a reasoned teaching that convincingly proves Jesus Christ violated the Torah. Until then I have to conclude that treatises like those of Schoenfeld, Maccoby and Cohn are just more bile and bullshit, used to justify the ongoing campaign of terror, genocide and theft of ancestral lands inflicted on millions of hapless Palestinians. If a "Semite" is a True Israelite, then let's have a look at the best of the "Prosemite" arguments. My arguments are derived from a 2,000 year old biography and historical record. That record also talks about the "Whore of Babylon" which is revealed in modern churchianity from the Whitehouse preachers and tele-evangelists to the Vaticanites. Don't expect these avatars of the Whore of Babylon to contend for the True Israelite faith. As Revelation says, liars and cowards have no place in the Kingdom of Heaven so you are welcome to your one billion plus boot-licking lackies and male impersonators like the Hagees, Grahams, Robertsons, Falwells etc. Party of Citizens Inc. Bagle Hole Distributors <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. 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