-Caveat Lector-

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> Party of Citizens wrote:
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Man on the Run wrote:
> >
> > > -Caveat Lector-
> > >
> > > BF>Let me comment on this once.  The "blood" issue is really not as important as 
>it
> > > appears.  The Book of Ruth demonstrates this.  Conversion is not a bar to being 
>an
> > > Israelite.
> >
> > Bull's eye. But you see, Christians believe THEY are the Neo-Israelites
> > because Jesus Christ said, "I came only to find the lost sheep of Israel".
> > POC
>
> BF>There is a misunderstanding they labor under.  Being an Israelite is about 
>honoring
> God.  However, not all who honor God are Israelites.  Job was not an Israelite, nor 
>was
> Eliezar.  To my knowledge, they never converted.  One can be a Noachide and honor 
>God by
> upholding the basic principles of righteousness, but you cannot enter the people 
>Israel
> simply by honoring God (whether Christians are truly Noachidic is another matter).  
>There
> can be other nations that honor God, and other individuals who are not Jewish who 
>honor
> God, but you can no more become a Jew by simply accepting the God of Abraham, Isaac, 
>and
> Jacob than one becomes an American by believing in Constitutional Republicanism.  A
> foreigner who believes in Constitutional Republicanism would work to transform their 
>own
> nations in that model, not claim to be the "true Americans" and then be done with it.
> Obviously, if they pass through immigration, that is another matter.  Just the same,
> Judaism will recognize those who truly wish to follow all the Laws of Moses but not
> people who simply want to skim the basics.  The basics are important, and those who
> accept them are counted as righteous, but have no right to usurp a title that they 
>do not
> possess.
>     I respect those who walk the walk but not those who talk the talk.  I will leave 
>you
> to Nurev Ind because he seems to be more interested in debating this matter in the 
>way
> you folks are used to.
>     Bates

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