-Caveat Lector-
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War!
SAUDIS STEP UP TO THE PLATE
EXPECT ANOTHER STRIKE-OUT, IF NOT WORSE
"Furthermore this whole matter also has the scent
of the Americans and the Israelis all over it as
well...
as they attempt to manipulate the upcoming Arab
League meeting and divert it from actually acting
firmly and harshly against both Israel and the U.S.
as today's unprecedented situation truly requires."
MID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 2/17/2002:
Crown Prince Abdullah certainly doesn't read MID-EAST REALITIES -- or he
certainly wouldn't be privately meeting with Tom Friedman in the first place
and supposedly rewarding him with this "scoop". There are many ways to do
things; and the Saudis have specialized in doing things in the wrong ways for
the wrong reasons for a very long time now. Back in 1990, for instance, the
Saudis thought they were taking another unprecedented step when they invited
Martin Indyk to be their guest in Riyadh, an idea pushed forward by none
other than their Ambassador in Washington, Bandar bin Sultan, working
ever-more-closely with the Americans and Israelis at the time because of the
impending "Gulf War". Bandar pushed Indyk forward and personally issued him
the coveted visa as someone who had become a personal "friend". Now at the
time Indyk was actually the Executive Director of the hawkish Israeli lobby
think-tank in Washington -- but in "the Kingdom" he was presented to most at
least as just an important Middle East analyst. Indyk and "the lobby" then
used this important "legitimacy" and Indyk's many Arab "friendships" in order
to propel the Israeli lobbyist into Bill Clinton's White House delegated to
be in charge of pushing forward the apartheid-style "peace process",
something very much wanted by the Israelis at the time.
More importantly at this historic moment, anyone who believes this whole
thing regarding Abdullah and the Saudis is innocent and really just happened
to happen as Tom Friedman reports just doesn't understand the way the world
really works. This whole matter has the smell of Ambassador Bandar all over
it; and its not the rich and sweet smell of his expensive and excessive
cologne. Furthermore this whole matter also has the scent of the Americans
and the Israelis all over it as well...as they attempt to manipulate the
upcoming Arab League meeting and divert it from actually acting firmly and
harshly against both Israel and the U.S. as today's unprecedented situation
truly requires.
SAUDI CROWN PRINCE SAYS CONSIDERED OFFERING PEACE TO ISRAEL
[Ha'aretz Service - 17 February] - The Saudi Crown Prince, Abdullah bin
Abdul Aziz al-Saud, has considered proposing that the Arab world offer Israel
full normalization of relations in exchange for full withdrawal from all the
occupied territories in accord with UN resolutions, including in Jerusalem,
The New York Times reported Sunday.
New York Times columnist Thomas Freidman writes in his column that Saudi
Arabia's de facto ruler told him in a recent interview that he has the speech
already written to make such a proposal, but that he decided not to deliver
it due to the high level of violence under the government of Prime Minister
Ariel Sharon.
During the interview, Friedman first suggested such an idea that the Arab
countries offer normalization to Israel in exchange for a withdrawal
according the the UN resolutions, to which the Crown Prince replied by asking
if the New York Times columnist had broken into his desk.
"I have drafted a speech along those lines," he said. "My thinking was to
deliver it before the Arab summit and try to mobilize the entire Arab world
behind it. The speech is written, and it is in my desk. But I changed my mind
about delivering it when Sharon took the violence, and the oppression, to an
unprecedented level.
"I wanted to find a way to make clear to the Israeli people that the Arabs
don't reject or despise them," he added. "But the Arab people do reject what
their leadership is now doing to the Palestinians, which is inhumane and
oppressive. And I thought of this as a possible signal to the Israeli
people."
AN INTRIGUING SIGNAL FROM THE SAUDI CROWN PRINCE
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
[NEW YORK TIMES - 17 February - R IYADH, Saudi Arabia] — Earlier this
month, I wrote a column suggesting that the 22 members of the Arab League, at
their summit in Beirut on March 27 and 28, make a simple, clear-cut proposal
to Israel to break the Israeli-Palestinian impasse: In return for a total
withdrawal by Israel to the June 4, 1967, lines, and the establishment of a
Palestinian state, the 22 members of the Arab League would offer Israel full
diplomatic relations, normalized trade and security guarantees. Full
withdrawal, in accord with U.N. Resolution 242, for full peace between Israel
and the entire Arab world. Why not?
I am currently in Saudi Arabia on a visit — part of the Saudi opening to try
to explain themselves better to the world in light of the fact that 15
Saudis were involved in the Sept. 11 attacks. So I took the opportunity of a
dinner with Saudi Arabia's crown prince, and de facto ruler, Abdullah
bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud, to try out the idea of this Arab League proposal. I
knew that Jordan, Morocco and some key Arab League officials had
been talking about this idea in private but had not dared to broach it
publicly until one of the "big boys" — Saudi Arabia or Egypt — took the lead.
After I laid out this idea, the crown prince looked at me with mock
astonishment and said, "Have you broken into my desk?"
"No," I said, wondering what he was talking about.
"The reason I ask is that this is exactly the idea I had in mind — full
withdrawal from all the occupied territories, in accord with U.N. resolutions,
including in Jerusalem, for full normalization of relations," he said. "I
have drafted a speech along those lines. My thinking was to deliver it before
the
Arab summit and try to mobilize the entire Arab world behind it. The speech
is written, and it is in my desk. But I changed my mind about delivering
it when Sharon took the violence, and the oppression, to an unprecedented
level.
"But I tell you," the crown prince added, "if I were to pick up the phone now
and ask someone to read you the speech, you will find it virtually
identical to what you are talking about. I wanted to find a way to make clear
to the Israeli people that the Arabs don't reject or despise them. But
the Arab people do reject what their leadership is now doing to the
Palestinians, which is inhumane and oppressive. And I thought of this as a
possible signal to the Israeli people."
Well, I said, I'm glad to know that Saudi Arabia was thinking along these
lines, but so many times in the past we've heard from Arab leaders that
they had just been about to do this or that but that Ariel Sharon or some
other Israeli leader had gotten in the way. After a while, it's hard to take
seriously. So I asked, What if Mr. Sharon and the Palestinians agreed to a
cease-fire before the Arab summit?
"Let me say to you that the speech is written, and it is still in my drawer,"
the crown prince said.
I pass all of this on as straightforwardly as I can, without hype or
unrealistic hopes. What was intriguing to me about the crown prince's remarks
was not just his ideas — which, if delivered, would be quite an advance on
anything the Arab League has proposed before — but the fact that they
came up in the middle of a long, off-the-record conversation. I suggested to
the crown Prince that if he felt so strongly about this idea, even in draft
form, why not put it on the record — only then would anyone take it
seriously. He said he would think about it. The next day his office called,
reviewed the crown prince's quotations and said, Go ahead, put them on the
record. So here they are.
Crown Prince Abdullah is known as the staunchest Arab nationalist among Saudi
leaders, and the one most untainted by corruption. He has a
strong Arab following inside and outside the kingdom, and if he ever gave
such a speech, it would have a real impact on Arab public opinion, as
well as Israeli. Prince Abdullah seemed to be signaling that if President
Bush took a new initiative for Middle East peace, he and other Arab leaders
would be prepared to do so as well.
I also used the interview with the Saudi leader to ask why his country had
never really apologized to America for the fact that 15 Saudis were
involved in 9/11?
"We have been close friends for so long, and we never expected Americans to
doubt us," he said. "We saw this attack by bin Laden and his men
as an attack on us, too, and an attempt to damage the U.S.-Saudi
relationship," the crown prince said. "We were deeply saddened by it and we
never expected it to lead to tensions between us. But we've now learned that
we respond to events differently. . . . It is never too late to express
our regrets."
As for the "axis of evil" and reports of a possible U.S. military strike
against Iraq, the Saudi leader said: "Any attack on Iraq or Iran should not be
contemplated at all because it would not serve the interests of America, the
region or the world, as there is no clear evidence of a present danger.
Iraq is contemplating the return of the inspectors, and the U.S. should
pursue this because inspectors can determine if Iraq is complying with the
U.N. resolutions."
*COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107,
any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use
without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest
in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational
purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ]
Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists!
Write to same address to be off lists!
<A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org</A>
DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER
==========
CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic
screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are
sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis-
directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with
major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought.
That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and
always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no
credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.
Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
========================================================================
Archives Available at:
http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html
<A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>
http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
<A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl</A>
========================================================================
To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Om
