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BF>The Founding Fathers were religiously complex.  They certainly were not
"fundamentalists", most of them, but they were in a "Christian" cultural context.
They were, in a cultural sense, Christians, just as Einstein was very Jewish even
though he was not an Orthodox Jewish Fundamentalist.  The Christian context of
Washington and others was cpmplex, incorporating Hebrew, Hellenistic, secular, and
Eastern ideas.  Attempts by Fundamentalists to claim them are ridiculous.  Attempts
by secularists to claim the Founders are also ridiculous.  They were their own men.
Spiritual reality is more complex than the Fundamentalist and secularist boxes
anyway.
    I believe that one strain of philosophy that led to the Constitution was an
emerging understanding among Gentiles of the Noachide creed.  This is often confused
with Fundamentalist Christianity by many in the Peter Marshall/Tim LaHaye camp.
That is not to say that the Fundamentalists are way off.  God IS central to an
understanding of the rise of our nation.  It is just that they over-simplify the
matter historically, and actually miss the drama and mystery of the actual history.
Actual history is far more interesting than anything in a child's censored
textbook.  I believe that Washington and others knew and understood secrets of the
Kabbalah.  Unforunately, the false was mixed with in with the true in their
understanding, laying the seeds for many of the problems we have now.  This was
probably bound to happen, because every new level has challenges commensurate to
that level.  The point is to transcend the current diffuculties in God's Love, not
to seek to avoid them by downward transcendence, a path that never works anyway.
    By the way, is OSaba really a woman?  If so, I have hope because the female of
the species seems to be capable of learning from her mistakes better than the male.
Is she is a woman, than there is hope that the maternal instinct might prevail in
her.
    Bates

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