-Caveat Lector- BF>The Founding Fathers were religiously complex. They certainly were not "fundamentalists", most of them, but they were in a "Christian" cultural context. They were, in a cultural sense, Christians, just as Einstein was very Jewish even though he was not an Orthodox Jewish Fundamentalist. The Christian context of Washington and others was cpmplex, incorporating Hebrew, Hellenistic, secular, and Eastern ideas. Attempts by Fundamentalists to claim them are ridiculous. Attempts by secularists to claim the Founders are also ridiculous. They were their own men. Spiritual reality is more complex than the Fundamentalist and secularist boxes anyway. I believe that one strain of philosophy that led to the Constitution was an emerging understanding among Gentiles of the Noachide creed. This is often confused with Fundamentalist Christianity by many in the Peter Marshall/Tim LaHaye camp. That is not to say that the Fundamentalists are way off. God IS central to an understanding of the rise of our nation. It is just that they over-simplify the matter historically, and actually miss the drama and mystery of the actual history. Actual history is far more interesting than anything in a child's censored textbook. I believe that Washington and others knew and understood secrets of the Kabbalah. Unforunately, the false was mixed with in with the true in their understanding, laying the seeds for many of the problems we have now. This was probably bound to happen, because every new level has challenges commensurate to that level. The point is to transcend the current diffuculties in God's Love, not to seek to avoid them by downward transcendence, a path that never works anyway. By the way, is OSaba really a woman? If so, I have hope because the female of the species seems to be capable of learning from her mistakes better than the male. Is she is a woman, than there is hope that the maternal instinct might prevail in her. Bates
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