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By all means...let us talk about what we are not supposed to talk about.
Otherwise how can we be law abiding citizens?
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Joshua Tinnin wrote:

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> from - http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/020222/l22327554_2.html
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> Friday February 22, 12:41 pm Eastern Time
>
> Move to ban Net "hate speech" provokes mixed response
> By Bernhard Warner, European Internet Correspondent
>
> LONDON, Feb 22 (Reuters) - Authors of emails and Internet postings that contain
> racist or xenophobic material could face criminal charges under a proposed
> European treaty that is dividing the Internet and law enforcement communities.
>
> The proposal, drafted by the Council of Europe (an influential legal forum that
> works to harmonise laws across Europe) would essentially outlaw the publishing
> of ``hate speech'' on the Internet. Welcomed by law enforcement agencies, it has
> been slammed by Internet firms as impossible to enforce.
>
> Known as the Convention on Cybercrime, the proposal has received input from 43
> European countries plus the United States, Japan, Canada and South Africa.
>
> It would need individual ratification in each country before becoming law. It
> has so far been signed, but not yet ratified, by 32 nations.
>
> The proposal seeks to create a comprehensive legal framework for Europe's
> crimefighters in their efforts to identify and prosecute cross-border hate
> crimes on the Internet, something politicians are eager to address in the wake
> of the September 11 attacks.
>
> "We must harmonise the laws first so that countries can co-operate in criminal
> investigations regarding the Internet," Peter Csonka, principal administrator at
> the Council of Europe, told Reuters on Friday.
>
> He added that many member states have already criminalised certain activities
> regarded as racist or xenophobic -- such as threatening a group on the grounds
> of race, colour or religion -- and the treaty would seek to extend these
> measures to the Internet.
>
> FREE SPEECH OR RACIAL HATRED?
>
> The proposal has already provoked protest from civil liberties groups who
> maintain it could criminalise free speech, and from some Internet firms
> concerned by liability issues.
>
> Csonka said that telecoms firms and Internet service providers (ISPs) have
> contacted the council asking for clarification on whether they would be held
> liable for hate speech posted or emailed by their customers.
>
> ISPs typically operate a policy of ``notification and takedown'' in which they
> will remove sites containing objectionable material if it's first brought to
> their attention. Self-policing in this manner, they say, is the best way to
> tackle hate speech online.
>
> "It's almost impossible, and this is the consensus in the ISP community, to
> monitor every single piece of Web space in the Internet community," said Paul
> Barker, director of corporate affairs at Freeserve, the British ISP owned by
> France's Wanadoo .
>
> Csonka said the liability concerns raised by ISPs and Web site operators have
> not yet been addressed.
>
> Civil liberty groups have also objected to the proposal, fearing it could bring
> the more rigorous anti-hate speech laws that exist in continental Europe to the
> more liberal UK and United States.
>
> For example, it is unlawful to post or sell Nazi regalia or propaganda on the
> Internet in France and Germany, but there are few legal curbs in the U.S. and
> Britain.
>
> "This proposal could potentially outlaw free speech," said Malcolm Hutty,
> general director for Campaign Against Censorship on the Internet in Britain, or
> CACIB. "That would be a great infringement of civil rights."
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