-Caveat Lector- On 24 Feb 2002 at 17:10, Bob Swanlund wrote:
> The flaw in the notion that because some are serfs all should be serfs > is that it can only benefit the "nobility". Mmmm ... the problem with this is entrusting "special status" to a select few who then run errands/interference for the nobility. This is like the kapos vs the kampers: the former had everything to gain by serfing their masters while the latter had everything to lose. When all are put in a field without protective barriers to segregate one from another based on some supposed hierarchy, there is a more equal treatment. Hierarchies may exist but they should not be state-mandated, especially when the herd can stampede. In the case of the churchies, the state imposes the tax laws in a different way for otherwise legitimate businesses that also charge admission fees and have stockholders and other trappings. Once the protections are removed for everyone, then there will be greater freedom of choice based upon reason and not blind emotional loyalty and success will be based on services rendered. This increases liberty when rationales and not mythe are part of the equation and the ineffective are shown for what they are: temporary, if not nonpermanent. This, of course, applies to tithes and other charitable deductions ("church taxes"). When such things are accountable as income and donations are no longer of any benefit to the donors, the recipients will drop like flies. Then comes the selection process based on services made available and abilities to successfully provide same. When the churchies complain and begin to demonstrate how they existed and were able to provide for their clientele adequately PRIOR to being made to pay their "share", the lessons become clear for the population as to how the churchies and the government should be able to operate on the same basis. Services are not provided when there is no one to be served, nothing to be provided. Leaders then tend to be a little more choosy as to who they want to become allied with and who they want to piss off. This becomes even more fun when the "Napoleons" are expected to not only make these decisions but lead the battles. As both are essentially non-profits, their ultimate functions will be for gratis, based on the dedication of the few tireless souls who believe in what they are doing, and from the population bases and without enduring bureaucratic hierarchies. Thus, the people, the churches and the government all are placed on an equal footing: tax one, tax them all (everyone gets to pay in into Soc Sec, e.g.); exclude one, exclude them all. To do otherwise, would be secure too much power through pet alliances. For the government to collude with the churches would, as aeons of history has shown, put the double whammy on those who are on the receiving ends. There are other aspects of societal hierarchism that would be equally affected. I tend to try to think how all of this worked before the income tax laws were enacted. This is loose and not based (much) on anyone else's perspective. Once I flesh this out in my mind, I'll press on with the Rothbard or Hoppe and see where my errors are. Or theirs. A<>E<>R <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html <A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om