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BF>It is interesting that just this summer we had an attack on the Liberty Bell and 
someone
landing on the Statue of Liberty.  Do we have "messages from God" that people are 
claiming to
hear?  Is there mind control, or some phenomenon?  It sounds crazy, but then again 
there is much
that is going on that may be for a purpose, and a great deal of technology we cannot 
understand.
     One possibility might be that there is an attempt to manipulate the public 
through the
perception of threats to the national fabric.  If the public reacts with fear, it is 
easier to
control.  Internal institutions would conceivably be behind this one.  Governments, 
corporations,
establishment religious institutions, and the like.  That is one possibility.
     Another possibility might be that we see a low level attack on the United States 
by hostile
foreign powers that are organizing psy-ops against symbols that Americans have clinged 
to.  I will
not name names, but some might include the "Axis of Evil".  This is not inconceivable.
     Yet another possibility is a very complex one.  I do not believe that WWII ended. 
 I believe
that Nazis are still around, some having fled to the Middle East and others to South 
America.
Some joined with our military and yet others the Soviets.  They hate American 
symbolism with a
vengeance that goes back to various internal civil wars between secret societies.  
They also hate
democracy with an ideological passion that is not understood by reasonable human 
beings.  They
might be using some kind of patsies to attack America's symbols, perhaps even Bin 
Laden himself.
If the planes alone did not collapse those buildings, as some allege, then Bin Laden 
had internal
help.  To me, this group is one likely scenerio.  There are other scenerios that I 
believe are
logical and yet are so extreme that I will not even sign off to them
    Whatever the truth is, we have an increase in absolute nuttiness that is 
impossible to fathom
logically.  One wonders what the ideologies of these strange attackers would be?  "God 
lives".
Certainly.  You don't need a sledge-hammer to prove that.  Then again, religious 
fanatics might
believe they are levelling the altars of Baal.  If so, one wonders why these benighted 
fools
believe they are doing the right thing?  The media will not say, and perhaps at this 
time that is
wise.
    Bates

Jei wrote:

> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Lessons from history in how the government has dealt with activists...
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 06:29:09 -0500
> From: preston peet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: cia-drugs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>      rootsofteror <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Spy News] FBI reports threat to Liberty Bell
>
> On the topic of blowing up the Liberty Bell, once more I find myself feeling
> a bit suspicious of the FBI's alert of a supposed terrorist threat.
>     I don't doubt terrorists are out there, but how many threats are we
> going to hear/be told about? I don't often read or hear about "threats" that
> drug dealers are going to be making a sale down the street, the cops simply
> move in, no? (or take money to look the other way, but I digress.)
>     Keeping us, joe/jane public, tense and feeling threatened, thereby
> helping make many folk much more willing to unquestionably allow the US
> government to carry out its targetless, never ending war on terror, seems to
> be the only reason I can personally come up with for these continued
> "alerts."
> Peace,
> Preston Peet
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> http://howmanyroads.com/Chapter_3_Excerpt.htm
>
> snip-
>
> It was in the Black Liberation Front that Ray found ready acceptance.  Once
> a member, Ray began proposing actions the group could undertake.  Suggesting
> that the Black Liberation Front expose the nation’s hypocrisy by defacing
> the Statue of Liberty, the Liberty Bell, and the Washington Monument, he
> gave the members an old US-Army manual of his, which outlined the use of
> explosives.  Everyone agreed that Ray’s suggestion was a good idea, but no
> one except Ray was willing to take any action.
>
> Ray led the Black Liberation Front on a reconnaissance trip to the Statue of
> Liberty.  Having been an explosives expert in the military, he showed the
> members where to place their bombs in order to cause maximum damage.  Since
> no one wanted to put up any money, Ray agreed to pay for the bomb materials
> himself.  Next Ray convinced his Black Liberation Front girlfriend to
> accompany him to Montreal, Canada, to buy 30 sticks of dynamite.  Upon
> returning, they hid the cache of explosives in a vacant lot in the Bronx.
>
> On February 17, 1965, the lead headline of the New York Times proclaimed:
> "Four Held in Plot to Blast Statue of Liberty, Liberty Bell and Washington
> Monument."  Under the bold headline were the pictures of the arrested Black
> Liberation Front members, along with a smaller headline, "A Rookie Policemen
> Here Infiltrates a Group of Negro Extremists."  The article went on to
> discuss how a "loyal Negro hero cop" had infiltrated the "fanatical
> extremist Black Liberation Front."
>
> Besides major front-page coverage, an entire inside page was devoted to the
> story.  Two additional reports discussed Ray’s "heroic work" for the NYPD’s
> Bureau of Special Services.  Although Ray had been in the department for
> less than a year, he was given an on-the-spot promotion from rookie to
> detective.  The police fantasy that he had single-handedly uncovered and
> thwarted a horrendous terrorist plot was repeated on the front pages of all
> the US newspapers, and was the lead story on radio and television newscasts
> nationwide.  The media portrayed this agent-provocateur as a
> bigger-than-life "American hero" who had put his life at risk by
> infiltrating a "dangerous group of ruthless, fanatical Black nationalists
> bent on destroying America."13
>
> When the trial of the Black Liberation Front members began in May of 1965,
> the evidence that the defense presented received no publicity in most
> newspapers.  In what little was reported, defense claims were always
> preceded with the word "alleged," while the testimony that Ray gave was
> presented as fact.  Under cross-examination, Ray admitted that he had given
> the defendants US Army explosives books, and suggested the targets.  Even
> more damning, he admitted that in order to purchase the explosives, he
> provided the money and the car, both of which had been supplied to him by
> the NYPD, and then drove to Canada to purchase the explosives.  The only
> action the defendants could be accused of was agreeing with Ray.  His
> girlfriend pleaded guilty to illegal transportation of explosives into the
> US, since she had ridden with Ray when he bought the dynamite.
>
> This was such a clear-cut case of police entrapment that I could not fathom
> how the jury would find the defendants guilty.  However, the all-White jury
> was terrified by the prosecutor, who depicted the defendants as dangerous
> African-American-extremist terrorists committed to destroying the nation.
> Even this attempt at further biasing the jury did not remove the fact that
> the only thing the defendants ever did was to agree with Ray.  Although the
> prosecutor was seeking a much longer prison sentence, the four defendants
> were sentenced to 15 years in prison.  After serving a few years, they were
> all paroled.  Unfortunately, this case is but one example of the "dirty
> tricks" used by undercover agents seeking to win criminal convictions of
> political activists.
>
> Notes: 13. New York Times. (1965, Feb. 17).
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mario Profaca" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "[Spy News]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 9:35 PM
> Subject: [Spy News] FBI reports threat to Liberty Bell
>
> > 
>http://chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-020221libertybell.story?coll=chi%2Dnews%2Dhed
> >
> > FBI reports threat to Liberty Bell
> >
> > By Maryclaire Dale
> > The Associated Press
> > Published February 21, 2002, 9:10 AM CST
> >
> > PHILADELPHIA -- Federal authorities kept a close watch on the Liberty Bell
> > today after receiving a "nonspecific" threat that someone planned to attack
> > it. It was not being closed to tourists, though.
> >
> > Security at the historic block that includes the Liberty Bell pavilion,
> > Independence Hall and a federal courthouse, and the surrounding Old City
> > neighborhood, was tightened after authorities issued a warning about the
> > bell's safety Wednesday.
> >
> > Dennis Reidenbach, assistant superintendent at Independence National
> > Historical Park, declined to give detailed security plans for the bell,
> > which is visited by more than 1.6 million people each year.
> >
> > The bell opened for visitors as usual today, and a handful of people lined
> > up to get in.
> >
> > Dave Siegelman, 36, a computer analyst walking past the bell Thursday
> > morning, said he wasn't worried about the threat.
> >
> > "That's an inanimate object. There's more crime against people," Siegelman
> > said. "I think that's cowardly to try to destroy something that can't hurt
> > you back."
> >
> > The threat didn't say when an attack might occur but was considered serious
> > enough to warrant increased patrols, said Linda Vizi, spokeswoman for the
> > FBI in Philadelphia.
> >
> > An area terrorism task force made up of the FBI, other federal agencies,
> > Philadelphia police and Pennsylvania and New Jersey state police "is in the
> > process of determining whether there is any veracity or substance to the
> > threat," Vizi said.
> >
> > Vizi declined to discuss details or the source of the threat. "All I can say
> > is that it was a nonspecific threat," she said. Local FBI officials learned
> > of the threat from the FBI in Washington, she said.
> >
> > Security had already been tightened in April after a self-described
> > wanderer, Mitchell A. Guilliatt, struck the bell with a small sledgehammer
> > while shouting, "God lives!" The 2,080-pound bell suffered small dents and
> > chips.
> >
> > Guilliatt has since pleaded guilty to damaging an archaeological resource
> > and is awaiting sentencing. He could receive a six-month term.
> >
> > The commonwealth of Pennsylvania ordered the bell from England, but
> > officials were displeased with its sound when it arrived in 1752.
> >
> > The bell was melted down and recast in Philadelphia in 1753. The bell, with
> > its inscription "Proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the
> > inhabitants thereof," was not particularly famous until it was adopted as a
> > symbol by the anti-slavery movement in the 1830s.
> >
> > By 1846, a thin crack began to affect the sound of the bell. It was repaired
> > that year and rang for a George Washington birthday celebration, but cracked
> > again for unknown reasons and has not been rung since.
> >
> > Copyright © 2002, The Associated Press
> >
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