-Caveat Lector- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 12:13:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Archibald Bard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Number of Muslims in U.S.
In either case, enough to stage a MMM (Million Muslim March) across the True North Strong and Free and liberate Alaska (pop. 600,000). When sanctions are lifted, Saddam can donate $1,000 to each Muslim in the MMM for each billion in added net revenue. Remember when Joe Vogler's Alaska Independence Party, sponsored by Iran tried to liberate Alaska in 1993 by sponsoring it for a seat in the UN General Assembly? Hey, if mainly Christian East Timor can have a plebiscite to secede from mainly Muslim Indonesia, mainly Muslim Alaska could secede from mainly Christian America by the same method. Remember too when freedom-loving Muslim Americans in the 60's and 70's tried to get the UN to assist them with a point-by-point plan in a desperate bid for freedom? Remember how many fredom-loving Indians and Muslims were killed by the U-S-A authorities in that era just for the 'crime' of wanting to be FREE. Free at last, Free at last, Free at last! When will it become a reality for those enslaved under U-S-A tyranny? When will the Canadian model of liberty...REAL provincial/states rights be accepted as JUST? Not as long as you have evil-doer puppet presidents in the Whitehouse. POC On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Archibald Bard wrote: > Number of Muslims in U.S. below estimates > Larry Witham > THE WASHINGTON TIMES > > Published 9/19/2002 > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The numbers of Roman Catholics are expanding in the South and West. >Evangelicals are growing everywhere, and there are fewer Muslims than everyone >thought. > These are some of the findings in the most complete religious survey of the >United States, and one of the most surprising is that Muslims, many of whom attend >mosque services, number just 1.6 million, far below the estimates of 7 million by >Islamic groups. > The figures from the Religious Congregations and Membership survey of 2000 are >based on the Muslims affiliated with America's more than 1,000 mosques, not the total >number. The finding touched a sensitive nerve on the debate over the presence and >influence of U.S. Muslims. > "Unfortunately, not all Muslims attend a mosque," says Ibrahim Hooper, >spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations. > He said many have taken the 1.6 million to stand for the number of all Muslims, >and in fact other national surveys have argued that the U.S. Muslim population is >below 2 million. Mr. Hooper says the 1.6 million number for mosque affiliation "still >sustains our 7 million figure" of all adherents to Islam. > "We believe this is a very reliable picture of American affiliation to local >congregations," said Dale E. Jones, a statistician with the Church of the Nazarene >and a chairman of the project. > "It's not like a national poll, but more like going to the nation's political >wards and asking how many voting people they had," he said in an interview yesterday. >The entire report is to be released tomorrow. > The every-decade survey, a project since 1966 of the Glenmary Home Missioners, >a Catholic organization in Cincinnati, is considered the most reliable data on >religious affiliation down to the county level. > The reports were collected from 149 of 258 known religious bodies in the United >States, and evaluated carefully in cooperation with the Association of Statisticians >of American Religious Bodies. > As expected, the Catholic Church has the largest adherence nationally; the >state of Utah with its Mormon preponderance has the highest churchgoing rates; and >Oregon, which is notoriously secular, has the lowest religious participation. > "There are now more Catholics in the West than in the Midwest," said Clifford >Grammich of the Glenmary Research Center. > Catholic parishes in the West and South are growing faster than elsewhere, >often by a third, he said. "The Church may have to shift more of its institutional >resources to meet this growth, or give more attention to mission needs" there. > Most growth in religious affiliations may be due to Hispanic immigration and >birth rates: Of the 11 million new adherents reported during the past decade by 87 of >the largest groups, 9 million were Catholics. > All Protestants outnumber Catholics nationally, however, and they make up the >largest religious grouping in 2,493 of the nation's 3,141 counties. > One reason for the cooperative census is to find out at the county and state >levels how much of the population is "unclaimed" by religious groups and thus fertile >ground for faith organizations to reach out. > Mr. Jones said that in the past decade, for example, the typical low-attendance >states, such as Washington, have shown a spurt in "claimed" population, perhaps >because of evangelism there during the 1990s. > "An awful lot of Western counties have shown gains in claimed people," he said. > Overall, according to this census sample, 50.2 percent of the nation's 280 >million citizens are claimed by a local congregation. > In national polls, by contrast, more than seven in 10 Americans claim >affiliation and nine in 10 profess belief in God. > The survey also has punctured the folk wisdom that rural Americans are more >pious than urban ones. "There is really no difference between the metro and non-metro >areas on how many are claimed by congregations," which is about 50 percent "claimed," >Mr. Jones said. > But nationally, affiliation has dropped by a few percentage points in 10 years. >Mr. Jones said this suggests a loss of denominational identity or feeling that "you >can be a good religious person without belonging to a congregation." > For example, 71 percent of U.S. counties have not shown gains in "claimed" >people in the past decade. > That decline is seen particularly in the more liberal Protestant "mainline," >with United Methodists losing nearly 7 percent, the Episcopal Church 5 percent, and >the Evangelical Lutherans more than 2 percent of their local memberships. > Though the survey sample is large enough to be representative, it had no way to >gather data from "small independent churches" or the new "megachurches." > The eight historic black denominations, such as the National Baptist Convention >and the African Methodist Episcopal Church, declined to participate. > Gathering good statistics is difficult, Mr. Jones said, and like many churches, >the black denominations have lacked firm estimates. What the survey did show, he >said, is that more black Americans are joining churches with European origins. > Utah, with its large Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints membership, >for the second decade running had the highest rate of church affiliation at 74.7 >percent. The District of Columbia is close behind with 73 percent. > By comparison, adherence in Oregon is 31 percent, and it is 33 percent in >Washington. > The District of Columbia, moreover, boasts the third-largest number of >congregations for a metro area. > > http://asp.washtimes.com/printarticle.asp?action=print&ArticleID=20020919-76042020 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ==^================================================================ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bUrCn8.bU7DwO Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^================================================================ <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! 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