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Subject: [U-S-A] Re: [IT] FALWELL, ROBERTSON CALL MUHAMMAD A TERRORIST, KILLER
Please ask them if Jesus Christ is a greater terrorist, killer? Hell is
mentioned twice as often as heaven in the Gospels. And consider the role
and countenance of Christ in Revelation. It has been many years since I
have read the newspaper of Imam Farrakhan ("The Final Call"?) but I
remember that he was preaching and writing from the Book of Revelation at
the time. Perhaps we should ask Nation of Islam as well. Maybe he can
organize another MMM (Million Muslim March), this time across the True
North, Strong and Free to occupy Alaska (pop. 600,000) and LIBERATE it as
a free province of Canada. As we know from the Quebec precedent, Canada's
provinces unlike U-S-A states, enjoy LIBERTY and can peacefully secede if
they want. If the Mormons can run a U-S-A state (Utah) why can't the
Muslims run a state...and then turn it into a province if they want?
Why? Other than that U-S-A has pre-emptively declared its STATE TERRORISM
DOCTRINE. It might pre-emptively strike Alaska for its attempt to be an
example of a "land of the free and home of the brave".
Think about that for a minute.
POC
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> FALWELL, ROBERTSON CALL MUHAMMAD A TERRORIST, KILLER
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InfoTimes/message/1483
> All 1.5 Billion Muslims, Arabs Respect Muhammad: Dr. Akbar S. Ahmed
> http://topica.com/lists/infotimes/read/message.html?mid=1711144624
>
> RACIST TERRORIST JERRY FALWELL CALLS GOD'S PROPHET MUHAMMAD
> A "TERRORIST"
> http://www.rense.com/general30/fKLKL.htm
>
> RACIST TERRORIST PAT ROBERTSON CALLS GOD'S PROPHET MUHAMMAD A "KILLER"
> http://www.cair-net.org
> http://www.cair-net.org/asp/article.asp?articleid=975&articletype=2
>
> Anti-Islam Bigot Jerry Falwell Brands Prophet Muhammad A "Terrorist"
> http://cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/03/60minutes/main524268.shtml
>
> Falwell Brands Mohammed A 'Terrorist'
>
> (October 4, 2002 - CBS): The Rev. Jerry Falwell has called Islam's
> founder and most sacred figure, Mohammed, "a terrorist."
>
> In a 60 Minutes interview with CBS News Correspondent Bob Simon,
> Falwell also affirms the Christian Right's steadfast support for the
> state of Israel against its Islamic enemies and hints that right-wing
> religious groups are influencing U.S. government policy toward
> Israel. Right-wing Christians believe the turmoil in the Middle East
> is a harbinger of the second coming of Christ.
>
> The interview with Falwell will be broadcast on 60 Minutes Sunday at
> 7 p.m. ET/PT.
>
> "I think Mohammed was a terrorist. I read enough�by both Muslims and
> non-Muslims, [to decide] that he was a violent man, a man of war,"
> Falwell tells Simon. "In my opinion�Jesus set the example for love,
> as did Moses, and I think Mohammed set an opposite example."
>
> When President Bush urged Israel to remove its forces from
> Palestinian towns earlier this year, Falwell sent him a personal
> protest and the White House received 100,000 e-mail protests from
> Christians.
>
> Falwell say he believes Bush is well aware of the Christian
> constituency. "There are 70 million of us�[and] there's nothing that
> would bring the wrath of the Christian public in this country down on
> this government like abandoning or opposing Israel on a critical
> matter," he says.
>
> Falwell and conservative Christians support the Israelis and condemn
> their enemies because they believe the triumph of Israel is God's
> will. The Jews' return to their ancient homeland -- and sole
> ownership of the territories Arabs and Israelis both lay claim to --
> is a precondition for the second coming of Christ, according to the
> Fundamentalist Evangelical Christians' interpretation of the Bible.
>
> The Biblical scenario is not a savory one for many Jews,
> however. "God save us from these people," says Israeli political
> analyst Yossi Alpher. "When you see what these people are encouraging
> Israel and the U.S. to do�ignore the Palestinians, kick them out�they
> are leading us into a scenario of out-and-out disaster," he tells
> Simon.
>
> But disaster is part of the scenario. Many Fundamentalist
> Evangelicals believe there will be catastrophic events on earth, some
> occurring already, including the turmoil in the Middle East,
> culminating in the Battle of Armageddon in which Christ will triumph
> and begin ruling the earth. At this point, they believe, non-
> believers will be destroyed, good Christians saved and any remaining
> Jews converted to Christianity.
>
> Says Ed McAteer, a founder of the Moral Majority and known as the
> godfather of the Christian Right, "I believe that we are seeing
> prophecy unfold so rapidly and dramatically and wonderfully, and,
> without exaggeration, [it] makes me breathless."
>
> [Copyright � 2002 CBS Worldwide Inc.]
>
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> Letters to the Editor
>
> RACIST TERRORIST PAT ROBERTSON CALLS GOD'S PROPHET MUHAMMAD A "KILLER"
> http://www.cair-net.org
> http://www.cair-net.org/asp/article.asp?articleid=975&articletype=2
>
> RACIST TERRORIST JERRY FALWELL CALLS GOD'S PROPHET MUHAMMAD
> A "TERRORIST"
> http://www.rense.com/general30/fKLKL.htm
>
> When the Rev. Jerry Falwell labeled the Prophet Muhammad
> a "terrorist," it was the latest and most inflammatory in a string of
> anti-Islam comments by conservative evangelical Christians.
>
> Some say the comments, combined with a strengthening alliance of
> American evangelicals with Israel, could drive a deeper wedge between
> the United States and Islamic countries, where such comments are
> widely publicized, often without context.
>
> One scholar even expressed fear for the safety of U.S. troops
> stationed in Islamic countries.
>
> Falwell, the Lynchburg, VA, televangelist who founded the now-defunct
> Moral Majority political organization, made the remark in an
> interview with [U.S. TV Channel 9] CBS reporter Bob Simon, scheduled
> to be broadcast Sunday on "60 Minutes."
>
> Falwell went on to say he had read about Muhammad in books by both
> Muslims and non-Muslims and had concluded that the prophet "was a
> violent man, a man of war."
>
> That, Falwell said, contrasts with the leading figures of
> Christianity and Judaism. "Jesus set the example for love, as did
> Moses, and I think Muhammad set an opposite example," Falwell said.
>
> Such comments go far beyond criticizing Islam as an influence on
> Osama bin Laden and others to condemning the entire religion itself,
> said Akbar Ahmed, professor of Islamic studies at American University
> in Washington and a columnist for Religion News Service.
>
> "The Prophet is so central to Islam that even the most liberal and
> quote-unquote 'secular' Muslims have the greatest of respect for him;
> he's considered a man of great peace," Ahmed said.
>
> "This statement will be flashed all over the world. Muslims are very,
> very sensitive about the prophet. And what worries me is this:
> Someone in Pakistan or some other part of the Islamic world where
> American troops might be will want to take revenge and might shoot an
> innocent American soldier."
>
> "To say something so horrible about the world's second-largest
> religion, with more than 1.3 billion people, is very indecent," said
> Faiz Rehman, spokesman for the Washington-based American Muslim
> Council, a political advocacy group. "I think he (Falwell) is trying
> to create a
> wedge between these two great religions, Islam and Christianity."
>
> In a telephone interview Friday, Falwell stood by his
> characterization of a warlike Muhammad, but expressed some regret for
> using the word "terrorist." He said he might not use that term again
> in referring to the person Muslims consider the greatest prophet and
> the messenger of their holiest book, the Quran.
>
> "I have never said in a sermon or a speech that Muhammad is a
> terrorist," Falwell said. "I simply answered a question by Bob Simon
> in the context of Jesus, Moses and Muhammad. It might have been a bad
> choice of words. But it is what historians say."
>
> Other evangelical leaders known for their political and theological
> conservatism have made similar anti-Islam comments. For example:
>
> -- In a September appearance on [U.S. TV 5] Fox News
> Channel's "Hannity & Colmes" program, Christian Coalition founder Pat
> Robertson said Muhammad was "an absolute wild-eyed fanatic" and that
> to think Islam "is a peaceful religion is fraudulent."
>
> -- The Rev. Franklin Graham, Billy Graham's son and the man who
> offered the invocation at President Bush's inauguration, has
> repeatedly disparaged Islam, calling it "a very evil and wicked
> religion." In a radio interview, the younger Graham, who is the head
> of Samaritan's
> Purse, a Christian aid group, also questioned why Muslims have not
> apologized for what was done in the name of their religion on Sept.
> 11, 2001.
>
> -- A lesser-known minister, the Rev. Jerry Vines of Jacksonville,
> Florida, called Muhammad a "demon-possessed pedophile" during a
> speech to pastors just prior to the annual Southern Baptist
> Convention.
>
> Attacking Muhammad in such ways is considered blasphemy in many
> Islamic countries. In Pakistan, it's a crime punishable by death, in
> accordance with the country's Constitution.
>
> Ahmed, the American University professor, said that as the United
> States tries to attract Islamic allies in its 'war on terrorism', as
> well as for a possible attack on Iraq, Falwell and other conservative
> Christians who have made inflammatory comments will be linked to
> President Bush, hurting the American cause.
>
> Bush has repeatedly tried to make a distinction between terrorists
> who commit violent acts in the name of Islam and Islam itself. The
> President has called Islam a religion of peace and has visited a
> mosque to reinforce the point.
>
> MARK O'KEEFE
> October 4, 2002
>
> ====================
>
> "In response to Falwell's remarks, Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the
> Council on American-Islamic Relation in Washington, said: 'Anybody is
> free to be a bigot if they want to. What really concerns us is the
> lack of reaction by mainstream religious and political leaders, who
> say nothing when these bigots voice these attacks.'
>
> "Hooper noted that Falwell and Robertson will speak at next week's
> Christian Coalition convention in Washington alongside House Majority
> Whip Tom DeLay and other politicians.
>
> " 'How can these elected representatives legitimize this kind of hate
> speech by appearing on the same platform with Islamophobes and Muslim-
> bashers?' Hooper asked.
>
> "Falwell was widely criticized last year after he said on Robertson's
> TV show that pagans, abortionists, feminists, homosexuals and civil
> liberties groups had secularized the nation and helped the September
> 11 attacks happen. Falwell later apologized."--(AP, 3 October 2002).
>
> ==================================================
>
> RACIST TERRORIST PAT ROBERTSON CALLS GOD'S PROPHET MUHAMMAD A "KILLER"
>
> CAIR Action Alert
> http://www.cair-net.org
>
> Pat Robertson To Receive $500,000 White House Initiative Grant
> http://www.cair-net.org/asp/article.asp?articleid=975&articletype=2
>
> Evangelical Called Prophet Muhammad A "Killer," Muslims Urged To
> Contact HHS
> http://www.cair-net.org/asp/printthis.asp?articleid=975
>
> (October 4, 2002 - CAIR): The Council on American-Islamic Relations
> (CAIR) today said televangelist Pat Robertson is unworthy to receive
> one of the first "faith-based" government grants because of his
> attacks on the faith of Islam and its Prophet Muhammad and asked that
> the decision to give his group a grant be reconsidered.
>
> Operation Blessing International, a charity created by Robertson, is
> scheduled to receive $500,000 in the first wave of grants to be
> distributed under President Bush's faith-based initiative, a program
> that Robertson himself denounced earlier this year. The Operation
> Blessing grant is one of 25 to be announced today by Health and Human
> Services (HHS) Secretary Tommy G. Thompson.
>
> SEE: "Robertson Charity Wins 'Faith-Based' Grant"
> http://www.cair-net.org
>
> In a recent appearance on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes"
> program, Robertson smeared both Islam and the Prophet Muhammad. About
> Muhammad, Robertson said: "This man was an absolute wild-eyed
> fanatic. He was a robber and a brigand. And to say that these
> terrorists distort Islam, they're carrying out Islam�I mean, this man
> [Muhammad] was a killer. And to think that this is a peaceful
> religion is fraudulent." Robertson also called Islam "a monumental
> scam" and claimed the Quran, Islam's revealed text, "is strictly a
> theft of Jewish theology."
>
> Robertson has in the past repeatedly defamed Islam and Muslims on his
> Christian Broadcasting Network "700 Club" program. He called Islam
> the "religion of the slavers" and said Americans who converted to
> Islam exhibited "insanity."
>
> "Anyone who exhibits such bigoted, hate-filled views is unworthy to
> receive tax-payer dollars. Mr. Robertson should be repudiated, not
> rewarded, for his Islamophobic hate speech. The White House
> initiative must not finance those who would defame Islam and divide
> our nation," said CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad. Awad added that
> it is hypocritical for Robertson to condemn the faith-based
> initiative on one hand, and then apply for and accept a grant from
> that same program.
>
> ACTION REQUESTED: (As always, be POLITE.)
>
> (1) Contact HHS Secretary Tommy G. Thompson and the White House to
> ask that the decision to offer Robertson's group a grant be
> reconsidered.
>
> CONTACT:
> Secretary Tommy G. Thompson
> The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS)
> 200 Independence Avenue, S.W.
> Washington, DC 20201 U.S.A.
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>
> (2) Help counter the attacks on Prophet Muhammad and Islam by taking
> part in CAIR's Library Project. Muslim individuals and groups to are
> urged to sponsor 18-item "library packages" of books, videos and
> audio cassettes about Islam and Muslims, which will then be
> distributed to as many as 16,000 public libraries nationwide. (One of
> the books in the package is a biography of the Prophet.) Some 445
> library packages have already been sponsored.
>
> GO TO: http://www.libraryproject.org or CALL: 1-800-392-7876, ext. 20.
>
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> FALWELL, ROBERTSON CALL MUHAMMAD A TERRORIST, KILLER
> http://topica.com/lists/infotimes/read/message.html?mid=1711144624
> All 1.5 Billion Muslims, Arabs Respect Muhammad: Dr. Akbar S. Ahmed
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/InfoTimes/message/1483
>
> Anti-Islam Bigot Jerry Falwell Brands Prophet Muhammad A "Terrorist"
> http://cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/03/60minutes/main524268.shtml
>
> RACIST TERRORIST JERRY FALWELL CALLS GOD'S PROPHET MUHAMMAD
> A "TERRORIST"
> http://www.rense.com/general30/fKLKL.htm
>
> RACIST TERRORIST PAT ROBERTSON CALLS GOD'S PROPHET MUHAMMAD A "KILLER"
> http://www.cair-net.org
> http://www.cair-net.org/asp/article.asp?articleid=975&articletype=2
>
> Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)
> http://www.cair-net.org
>
> American Muslim Council (AMC)
> http://www.amconline.org
> AMC Internet-Web Links
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>
> New U.S. Jerusalem Bill Alienates Muslims
> http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=19156
>
> It's Time To Re-evaluate Terrorism
> http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=19183
>
> U.S., Europe Criticize India Over Massacres of Muslims in Gujarat,
> India
> http://islam-online.net/english/news/2002-10/04/article14.shtml
>
> Pakistan Carries Out Successful Nuclear Ballistic Missile Test
> http://islam-online.net/English/News/2002-10/04/article30.shtml
>
> Don't Give Bush War Powers
> http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1003-04.htm
>
> U.S. Senator Paul Wellstone Says No To Iraq Resolution
> http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1003-09.htm
>
> Text: House Resolution Authorizing the Use of U.S. Force Against Iraq
> http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1003-02.htm
>
> Anger Swells in Arab, Muslim World
> http://www.gulfnews.com/Articles/news.asp?ArticleID=64648
>
> 'Big Bush, Little Bush' Draw Scorn on Streets of Baghdad
> http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/1002-02.htm
>
> STOP THE BUSH-SHARON WAR ON IRAQ BEFORE IT STARTS!
> http://www.iacenter.org/1026_call.htm
> Saturday, October 26, 2002, NATIONAL MARCH on the WHITE HOUSE, U.S.
> STATE DEPARTMENT, U.S. DEFENSE DEPARTMENT and the U.S. CONGRESS with
> a joint action in San Francisco, California.
>
> Oil For Blood
> http://www.yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=733
>
> The Upside Down Thomas Friedman
> http://www.yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=745
>
> The Hypocrisy Could Not Be Clearer
> http://www.yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=729
>
> In the Name of God, I Kill You!
> http://www.yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=740
>
> Conservatives Invade the Classrooms
> http://www.yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=739
>
> Make Jobs, Not War!
> http://www.yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=749
>
> 9/11: WHAT DID ISRAEL KNOW?
> -- and when did they tell us?
> http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j100402.html
>
> An Open Letter to the United Nations Security Council
> http://commondreams.org/views02/1002-03.htm
>
> Proof U.S. Military Studied 9-11 Attack Scenario 25 Years Ago?
> http://www.rense.com/general30/iug.htm
>
> Bush War Plan: "Blind and Improvident" - by U.S. Senator Robert Byrd
> http://www.counterpunch.org/byrd1004.html
>
> Ariel Sharon and George W. Bush -- Who is the Real Master?
> http://www.counterpunch.org/lee1004.html
>
> Is the President Nuts? Diagnosing Dubya
> http://www.counterpunch.org/wolman1002.html
> "Many people, inside and especially outside this country, believe
> that the American President [George War Bush] is nuts, and is taking
> the world on a suicidal path. As a board-certified psychiatrist, I
> feel it's my duty to share my understanding of his psychopathology.
> He's a complicated man, under tremendous pressure from both his
> family/junta, and from the world at large."
>
> Somebody Blew Up America
> http://www.counterpunch.org/poem1003.html
>
> American Muslim Alliance (AMA)
> http://www.amaweb.org
>
> American Muslim Political Coordinating Council (AMPCC)
> http://www.amaweb.org/ampcc/default.htm
>
> American Muslims for Jerusalem
> http://www.amjerusalem.org
>
> Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC)
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>
> Minaret For Freedom
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>
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