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t r u t h o u t | Rebuttal
Bill Moyers | NOW

Moyers on O'Reilly
By
Bill Moyers

Wednesday, 4 December, 2002

In a recent column and broadcast Bill O'Reilly makes a number of assertions about me, 
in
matters large and small, that are both undocumented and false. It's time to set the 
record
straight.

 First, on a rather trivial level, Mr. O'Reilly asserted that I refused to come to the 
phone
when he called. He's not telling the truth. One of his staff called my assistant to 
ask if I
would appear on Mr. O'Reilly's show, but I declined. I would never refuse a call from 
Mr.
O'Reilly, although my ears are not quite tuned to his decibel level.

Mr. O'Reilly says I called him a warmonger. He is not telling the truth. Here's what
happened: In the aftermath of 9/11 Mr. O'Reilly, from his battle station at Fox, was 
calling
for the United States "to bomb the Afghan infrastructure to rubble, the airport, the 
power
plants, the water facilities, the roads." He went on to describe Afghanistan as "a very
primitive country" and to say "taking out their ability to exist day-to-day will not 
be hard.
Remember the people of any country are ultimately responsible for the government they
have. The Germans were responsible for Hitler, the Afghans are responsible for the
Taliban. We should not target civilians but if they don't rise up against this criminal
government, they starve, period."

I puzzled over Mr. O'Reilly's glib wish to make people endure "yet another round of 
intense
pain" when the incredible suffering they were already enduring came from a totalitarian
regime that kept them subjugated with terror and torture. It would be like punishing 
the
inmates of Auschwitz and Buchenwald with further starvation and humiliation because 
they
did not rise up against their Nazi guards. In the coming fight against terrorists, 
such a cruel
disposition to visit pain on helpless people would make us like them and create 
sympathy
and allies for their cause. In a speech soon thereafter I pointed out that 
"Afghanistan is a
wasted land, full more of widows than warriors and that the people there have been so
beaten down and run over and oppressed and exploited by the Taliban" that they couldn't
possibly rise up against the theocratic thugs ruling them, as Mr. O'Reilly said they 
must or
be savaged once again, this time by Americans. His passion, I noted, is equaled "only 
by his
stubborn, ignorant denial of complexity." As the transcript of the speech shows, I did 
not
call Mr. O'Reilly a warmonger. It didn't occur to me.

Mr. O'Reilly went on to inform the readers of his column that I own the videos to my
programs which are funded by public television and that "[Moyers] sells the 
videocassettes,
keeping the proceeds." Once again he is not telling the truth. Public television 
rarely funds
my work - I raise the money myself, from independent sources-but when it does, as with
the case of my weekly series NOW with Bill Moyers (Friday nights at 9 p.m. on Channel 
13),
PBS owns the distribution rights, the proceeds remain with public television, and my 
share
is miniscule.

True to form, Mr. O'Reilly is also failing to tell the truth when he alleges that I 
received the
duPont-Columbia Gold Baton Award in 2000 for my documentary on South Africa because
the Schumann Foundation, which I head, "had been giving the Columbia Journalism Review
big donation money." If Mr. O'Reilly had any interest in the facts, he could easily 
have
ascertained that the Columbia Journalism Review doesn't select recipients of the 
duPont-
Columbia Awards, and that the Schumann grant had been made four years earlier when
the magazine faced a serious financial crisis and might well have disappeared. The
Columbia Journalism Review's editor and dean when the grant was given were no longer
around at the time of the Gold Baton Award. A little research would also have revealed 
that
my work had received eight duPont-Columbia Awards before my association with the
Schumann Foundation and before any Schumann grant to the Columbia Journalism Review.
The magazine, I am pleased to report, survived the financial crisis and will no doubt 
survive
Mr. O'Reilly's attacks.

As I say, Mr. O'Reilly could have ascertained all of this with just a little homework, 
but the
facts would have cramped his style and the truth seems hardly his intent. He is not 
even
original as a prevaricator. Most of his column is lifted from the work of another 
David Brock
wannabe, Stephen Hayes, who poured out his spleen on me some months ago in that other
bastion of Rupert Murdoch's journalistic ethics, The Weekly Standard. Although I 
refuted
the lies and errors in that tirade, Mr. O'Reilly recycles Mr. Hayes' lies but not my 
refutation.
And what's more, Mr. O'Reilly ignores what's on the record. The dean of the Columbia
Graduate School of Journalism, Tom Goldstein, and the publisher of the Columbia
Journalism Review, David Laventhol, wrote The Weekly Standard to debunk "Stephen
Hayes' ludicrous attempt to link the Columbia Journalism Review's praise of Bill 
Moyers to a
grant from the Schumann Foundation." Employing his usual journalistic standards, Mr.
O'Reilly never mentioned the letter.

What to make of this?

I report. You decide.

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