Matthew
Thanks for the update.
> I've just landed support in trunk for the EWMH window title/icon name
> properties. The most visible consequence of this will be that Chrome
> and its downstreams will now actually wind up with visible titles (and
> icon names, copied from the title, since it doesn't actually set those
> itself, 'cuz Chrome).
>
> This does have one unfortunate side effect. Since we now see the
> names Chrome gives itself, and follow how they change all the time,
> Aaron will have to hunt me down and pull out all my fingernails. So
> if this is the last time anybody hears from me, you'll all know what
> happened!
Well, I am glad to say you are safe.
When I was trying out window naming and iconmanager tab naming I had two
problems. One was that firefox kept growing in size and slowing everything
down so that I had to kill and restart it often, and in-between restarts
frequently tried to kill unwanted windows or tabs. (I tried opera and
google-chrome because they were not so resource heavy, but did not like
their interface options.)
Since then a number of things have changed (now using Fedora 27). First
firefox has improved enormously. It used to consume vast amounts of
memory and cpu-time while doing nothing for me and regularly had to be
killed and re-started. Now I can have 25 or more windows, with between
2 and about 30 tabs, and when I am not interacting with it there's no
noticeable impact on anything else: xload shows a thin wiggly black line at
the bottom, instead of a large black rectangle. So I rarely have to kill
and restart firefox.
Another change is that on restart it displays windows in the same order as
previously, so I no longer have to waste time re-ordering windows after
restarting firefox, and I don't need "xprop -set WM_NAME" to help me find
what I want after they windows come up wrongly ordered.
I rarely reboot and mostly use hibernate/resume. A large running firefox
can be an added burden and sometimes used to cause resume to fail.
But I now find that if before running hibernate I 'killall firefox', then
after the next resume start firefox, it very quickly restores all my old
windows in the same order as previously (after first giving me the option
to delete any windows or tabs no longer needed) -- so instead of having
names for my most used windows I just ensure that they are near the top of
the iconmanager and that's where they go automatically after the next
hibernate+resume. So I no longer use xprop to name panels in the
iconmanager.
I would like to be able to (e.g.) right click on an item in the iconmanager
and see a list of the tabs in the corresponding window, but I expect that's
impossible. And not all web site designers bother to ensure that there's a
title for each window, anyway.
I don't (yet) knowingly use any EMWH features, so the changes are unlikely
to affect me. One day I must find out what EMWH features are whether I
should use them!
Thanks again for all your work on ctwm.
Aaron
PS
I've just noticed there's no mention of ctwm in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_window_manager
I may later try to fix that when I have some spare time, unless
someone else gets in first. It is mentionied in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Window_Manager_Hints
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PPS
opera now refuses to start up
(opera:3880): libnotify-WARNING **: Failed to connect to proxy
Gkr-Message: couldn't connect to dbus session bus: Could not parse server
address: Unknown address type (examples of valid types are "tcp" and on
UNIX "unix"
But google-chrome works and meets my needs as an occasional supplement to
firefox. (E.g. sometimes it's better at saving a window as pdf.)
