Hi,

playing around with the border problem in Firefox (see other thread)
I noticed two remarkable differences between normal borders and
3D borders in ctwm:

1) ThreeDBorders are only painted around the outer window, while
   normal borders appear additionally between the title and the
   content of the windows. I.e.

   Border
   Title bar with the icons
   Border
   e.g. Menu bar of the program

   While for ThreeDBorders it's only

   Border
   Title bar with the icons
   Border
   e.g. Menu bar of the program

   I guess that's intended and no way of getting this additional
   inbetween-border with ThreeDBorders, too?


2) Normal borders belong to the window in a different way than
   ThreeDBorders:

   a) Taking a screenshot of a single window (e.g. with gimp or xv)
      will not include the normal borders in the screenshots (except the
      one between title bar and window content, of course), but will
      include the ThreeDBorders.

   b) I can move the window by clicking with the left mouse button
      on the upper normal border. Just like with the middle mouse button,
      both will turn the mouse cursor into the move cursor.

      With ThreeDBorders, this doesn't work. The left mouse button click
      will result in the clock cursor, only the middle mouse button
      will create the move cursor.

   So, normal borders and ThreeDBorders are different kind of objects.
   Can someone explain that? And again, I'm afraid that cannot be changed?

cu,
Frank
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