On 10/1/25 08:56, Daniel Stenberg via curl-library wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> In curl we currently support three different QUIC backends, out of which only 
> one has graduated into non-experimental (ngtcp2).
> 
> We added support for OpenSSL's own QUIC stack back before they offered a 
> "proper" QUIC API to allow users to do HTTP/3 even with vanilla OpenSSL, like 
> users could with the OpenSSL forks. We call that the OpenSSL-QUIC backend.
> 
> The OpenSSL-QUIC backend remains experimental in curl because it 
> underperforms 
> significanly speedwise compared to the alternatives. It does this while also 
> using significantly more memory.
> 
> As vanilla OpenSSL nowadays provides an API that allows curl to use ngtcp2, 
> the need for curl to support OpenSSL-QUIC is questionable.
> 
> Does anyone actually like or care for OpenSSL-QUIC support in curl?
Arch Linux once used it by default.  Now that there is an alternative
that works with OpenSSL I think ngtcp2 is the right way to go.

I think OpenSSL should be focusing on fixing its performance problems
rather than on a QUIC implementation that nobody is interested in.

Personally, I think a Rust implementation would be better.  Hopefully
the people behind https://memorysafety.org can fund someone to work
on stabilizing it and getting it used in distros.
-- 
Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)

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