On Nov 4, 2021, at 08:00, Rin Okuyama <rokuyama...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hmm, if affected hardware is somehow limited, we can just introduce something
> like AHCI_QUIRK_EXTRADELAY. Otherwise, we can reconsider, for example, before
> NetBSD 10 is released.
> 
> Jun, Patrick, can you please provide full dmesg for your machines?
> 

Is it a function of the ACHI controller, or the drive attached to it, or a 
mismatch between how the two handle the ATA protocol?  A quirk table would be a 
good solution.  I can only hope that it’s as easy as tagging a controller.

For the systems that demonstrate the failure, do other drives work fine?  That 
may be the easiest way to check.  The two drives in Ebihara-san’s dmesg output 
are low-cost mechanical drives, and I’m more suspicious of the drives than then 
controllers. 

jf
-- 
John Franklin
frank...@elfie.org

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