While I'm posting in this thread, most PAKE schemes I looked at in the
past had a bad property of losing their authentication strength if an
attacker can break the underlying cryptosystem (e.g. solve EC DLP).
It seemed to me that they could easily be upgraded by again hashing
the KDFed password into the returned shared secret once the protocol
completes.  Such an alteration would reduce the ZK property to
computational for an attacker that can solve ECEL, but this seems to
me to be a good tradeoff vs someone with an unknown attack on the
curve you're using being able to falsely authenticate to everything.
Do any well analyzed PAKE schemes bake this in?

The original SPEKE paper does so, but I'm not at all convinced that hashing the password into the resulting key is actually beneficial. I'd rather advocate for *not* doing it by purpose.

I identify two main aspects.

1.) So as I understand in the security proof of Philip MacKenzie from 2001 for SPEKE (https://eprint.iacr.org/2001/057) it's the exact fact that the password is hashed into the result key at the very end is the main reason why the security proof comes to the result that the attacker might be able to test two passwords at the same time for one single online login attempt. I consider this result to be rather some kind of technical defect of the proof strategy and don't believe that there will ever be a realistic attack. However the use of the password at the end might complicate the security proof. This might be the reasons why I did not see this method in protocols that were developped at the same time with their respective security proof strategy.

2.) The real reason, why I'd avocate on not using the password twice is side-channel resistance. In many systems the password should be considered to form the crown jewels to protect with security. The fact that you have to use the password twice might expose the password to a higher risk of exposure. See, e.g. the recent Nijmegen paper on side-channel attacks on SHA512. https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/985

Note also, that for the time being "only" forward secrecy might be compromised by an quantum computing adversary in the far future. We don't talk about false authentication at the moment.

In order to provide some level of protection against quantum computers (QC), I'd rather suggest to use a scheme that hashes the password together with ephemeral random numbers to a random point and again hashes the result group element for key derivation at the end. Any PACE variant will do so, as does the protocol I have suggested earlier in this thread (which removes the unnecessary SPEKE-Patent-Workarounds from PACE). As a result, you have two hashes at the beginning and the end which most likely will never be broken by a QC algorithm. The adversary might have additional capabilities, but most likely will be forced to mount a "quantum computing dictionary attack" which actually might exceed her budget and capabilities.

Yours

Björn
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