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+       <entry xml:lang="en">
+               <title type="html">Some thoughts on the Microsoft’s 
implementation of ODF</title>
+               <link 
href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/12/17/some-thoughts-on-the-microsofts-implementation-of-odf/"/>
+               
<id>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/12/17/some-thoughts-on-the-microsofts-implementation-of-odf/</id>
+               <updated>2008-12-17T17:11:34+00:00</updated>
+               <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;This post is a bit hard to write. 
Let me just put it this way: If my predictions below are true, it will mean 
that Microsoft will offer some crippled and low-level support of ODF 1.1 in its 
next version of Microsoft Office. It will also mean that OpenOffice.org will 
have gained a competitive edge on the market.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Now you may wonder why I find it difficult to write down these 
things. The reason is  &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/email/archives/200812/msg00016.html&quot;&gt;the
 recent post of Doug Mahugh&lt;/a&gt; in regard of the support of ODF by MS 
Office. Instead of providing a detailed review on the matter, Doug explains -a 
bit laboriously- that interoperability does not mean that each implementation 
has to do things the same way and that some implementations are more extensive 
than others. We are then being told that Microsoft Office will have limited 
support in for ODF tables in Word.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Doug&amp;#8217;s initial point is true: there are differences in 
implementation of a standard. When you have a truly open standard, you can 
expect implementers to be able to deliver some reliable implementation of the 
standard. Of course, it depends of the implementation&amp;#8217;s focus. 
Suppose for one moment that I&amp;#8217;m in the business of developing and 
selling IT systems for ATMs. I have an OS that sports an user interface for ATM 
transactions, another one for administration, and among several other features, 
an editor that prints out your receipts and the records of your past 
transactions on demand. One might expect that this editor can support ODF 
natively and will create ODF documents. These documents are not very complex, 
and to say it all, they&amp;#8217;re even very basic. All what is required for 
me is to implement the bare minimum of ODF to be compliant and adequately call 
myself compliant. The minimum compliance with ODF is my right, as the vendor of 
the ATM receipts editor. My business is not print complex spreadsheets, nor 
fancy presentations, no: my business is to allow cash machines to print 
customers&amp;#8217; receipts of their cash transactions at the ATM, 
that&amp;#8217;s all.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Now you have Microsoft&amp;#8217;s bellydancing and basically 
declaring that they, who sell the “best office suite on the market” (I 
don&amp;#8217;t make that claim) will offer poor support on ODF because of 
product limitations. Am I the only one here feeling that Redmond is trying 
-again-to play games? Any additional information would be welcome at this 
stage, of course, but the market should pay close attention to this 
issue.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;I have hailed and declared myself positively satisfied the inclusion 
of Microsoft in the ODF committees at the OASIS consortium. I have read the 
contributions of its employees and they were useful and constructive. This 
being said, Doug&amp;#8217;s blog leaves me with an odd taste in my 
mouth.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;To be frank, I feel that Doug has been looking for a way to tell us 
that Microsoft&amp;#8217;s support of ODF will be crappy and that it was 
intended to be that way. I realize I have no substantial evidence of what 
I&amp;#8217;m asserting here, but since when does Microsoft speak of the new 
features of MS Office with a sorry tone?&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#8217;s why I just don&amp;#8217;t know how to properly 
assess what kind of message Microsoft is sending right now. The way I see it, 
Microsoft expects customers will stick to Microsoft Office since it also 
supports an Open Standard, ODF. However, the support of ODF being of poor 
quality, customers will roll back to Microsoft&amp;#8217;s formats, and life 
will go on back like it was in the good old days.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;I realize this is all « prospective » thinking, and that there is 
nothing solid aside Microsoft&amp;#8217;s announcement of poor support of the 
ODF file format. I am disappointed by these news, though. Once again, 
Microsoft&amp;#8217;s declarations turn out to be “all hat, no cattle”. The 
way out of it is known: Choose OpenOffice.org, choose ODF, choose any other 
office suite, but not the one that offers partial support of an open standard 
that puts the users first.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&lt;br clear=&quot;left&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p class=&quot;akst_link&quot;&gt;&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://standardsandfreedom.net/?p=109&amp;akst_action=share-this&quot;
 title=&quot;E-mail this, post to del.icio.us, etc.&quot; 
id=&quot;akst_link_109&quot; class=&quot;akst_share_link&quot; 
rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Share This&lt;/a&gt;
+&lt;/p&gt;</content>
+               <author>
+                       <name>Charles Schulz</name>
+                       <uri>http://standardsandfreedom.net</uri>
+               </author>
+               <source>
+                       <title type="html">Moved by Freedom - Powered by 
Standards » OOo Postings</title>
+                       <subtitle type="html">A weblog by Charles-H. 
Schulz.</subtitle>
+                       <link rel="self" 
href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/category/ooo-postings/feed"/>
+                       
<id>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/category/ooo-postings/feed</id>
+                       <updated>2008-12-17T18:00:41+00:00</updated>
+               </source>
+       </entry>
+
        <entry>
                <title type="html">[Update]Tønder Municipality behind Free IT 
Software for all Schoolchildren</title>
                <link 
href="http://lodahl.blogspot.com/2008/12/tnder-municipality-behind-free-it.html"/>
@@ -130,7 +166,7 @@
                        <subtitle type="html">A weblog by Charles-H. 
Schulz.</subtitle>
                        <link rel="self" 
href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/category/ooo-postings/feed"/>
                        
<id>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/category/ooo-postings/feed</id>
-                       <updated>2008-12-17T06:00:34+00:00</updated>
+                       <updated>2008-12-17T18:00:41+00:00</updated>
                </source>
        </entry>
 
@@ -487,25 +523,4 @@
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        </entry>
 
-       <entry>
-               <title type="html">Newsletter</title>
-               <link 
href="http://lodahl.blogspot.com/2008/11/newsletter.html"/>
-               
<id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5198340507565233169.post-8159324126494009918</id>
-               <updated>2008-11-30T21:31:04+00:00</updated>
-               <content type="html">The monthly newsletter from the Danish 
community is out: http://doc.oooforum.dk/Nyhed/2008December.pdf</content>
-               <author>
-                       <name>Leif Lodahl</name>
-                       <email>[email protected]</email>
-                       <uri>http://lodahl.blogspot.com/</uri>
-               </author>
-               <source>
-                       <title type="html">Lodahl's blog</title>
-                       <subtitle type="html">OpenOffice.org, open source 
software and open standards. These are the three things you can read about on 
my blog. I'll try to keep you updated on news and events in Denmark.
-Okay, sometimes you can read something about Lotus Notes too</subtitle>
-                       <link rel="self" 
href="http://lodahl.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default"/>
-                       <id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5198340507565233169</id>
-                       <updated>2008-12-17T00:00:43+00:00</updated>
-               </source>
-       </entry>
-
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 </div>
 
-<p><em>Bloggings on native language topics by project members - see <a 
href="#disclaimer">disclaimer</a>.<br />Last updated: December 17, 2008 12:00 
PM GMT</em></p>
+<p><em>Bloggings on native language topics by project members - see <a 
href="#disclaimer">disclaimer</a>.<br />Last updated: December 17, 2008 06:00 
PM GMT</em></p>
 
+<h2>December 17, 2008</h2>
+<h3>
+<a href="http://standardsandfreedom.net"; title="Moved by Freedom - Powered by 
Standards » OOo Postings">
+Charles Schulz</a>&nbsp;:&nbsp;
+<a 
href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/12/17/some-thoughts-on-the-microsofts-implementation-of-odf/";>
+Some thoughts on the Microsoft’s implementation of ODF</a>
+</h3>
+<p>
+<p>This post is a bit hard to write. Let me just put it this way: If my 
predictions below are true, it will mean that Microsoft will offer some 
crippled and low-level support of ODF 1.1 in its next version of Microsoft 
Office. It will also mean that OpenOffice.org will have gained a competitive 
edge on the market.</p>
+<p>&nbsp;</p>
+<p>Now you may wonder why I find it difficult to write down these things. The 
reason is  <a 
href="http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/email/archives/200812/msg00016.html";>the
 recent post of Doug Mahugh</a> in regard of the support of ODF by MS Office. 
Instead of providing a detailed review on the matter, Doug explains -a bit 
laboriously- that interoperability does not mean that each implementation has 
to do things the same way and that some implementations are more extensive than 
others. We are then being told that Microsoft Office will have limited support 
in for ODF tables in Word.</p>
+<p>&nbsp;</p>
+<p>Doug&#8217;s initial point is true: there are differences in implementation 
of a standard. When you have a truly open standard, you can expect implementers 
to be able to deliver some reliable implementation of the standard. Of course, 
it depends of the implementation&#8217;s focus. Suppose for one moment that 
I&#8217;m in the business of developing and selling IT systems for ATMs. I have 
an OS that sports an user interface for ATM transactions, another one for 
administration, and among several other features, an editor that prints out 
your receipts and the records of your past transactions on demand. One might 
expect that this editor can support ODF natively and will create ODF documents. 
These documents are not very complex, and to say it all, they&#8217;re even 
very basic. All what is required for me is to implement the bare minimum of ODF 
to be compliant and adequately call myself compliant. The minimum compliance 
with ODF is my right, as the vendor of the ATM receipts editor. My business is 
not print complex spreadsheets, nor fancy presentations, no: my business is to 
allow cash machines to print customers&#8217; receipts of their cash 
transactions at the ATM, that&#8217;s all.</p>
+<p>&nbsp;</p>
+<p>Now you have Microsoft&#8217;s bellydancing and basically declaring that 
they, who sell the “best office suite on the market” (I don&#8217;t make 
that claim) will offer poor support on ODF because of product limitations. Am I 
the only one here feeling that Redmond is trying -again-to play games? Any 
additional information would be welcome at this stage, of course, but the 
market should pay close attention to this issue.</p>
+<p>&nbsp;</p>
+<p>I have hailed and declared myself positively satisfied the inclusion of 
Microsoft in the ODF committees at the OASIS consortium. I have read the 
contributions of its employees and they were useful and constructive. This 
being said, Doug&#8217;s blog leaves me with an odd taste in my mouth.</p>
+<p>&nbsp;</p>
+<p>To be frank, I feel that Doug has been looking for a way to tell us that 
Microsoft&#8217;s support of ODF will be crappy and that it was intended to be 
that way. I realize I have no substantial evidence of what I&#8217;m asserting 
here, but since when does Microsoft speak of the new features of MS Office with 
a sorry tone?</p>
+<p>&nbsp;</p>
+<p>That&#8217;s why I just don&#8217;t know how to properly assess what kind 
of message Microsoft is sending right now. The way I see it, Microsoft expects 
customers will stick to Microsoft Office since it also supports an Open 
Standard, ODF. However, the support of ODF being of poor quality, customers 
will roll back to Microsoft&#8217;s formats, and life will go on back like it 
was in the good old days.</p>
+<p>&nbsp;</p>
+<p>I realize this is all « prospective » thinking, and that there is 
nothing solid aside Microsoft&#8217;s announcement of poor support of the ODF 
file format. I am disappointed by these news, though. Once again, 
Microsoft&#8217;s declarations turn out to be “all hat, no cattle”. The way 
out of it is known: Choose OpenOffice.org, choose ODF, choose any other office 
suite, but not the one that offers partial support of an open standard that 
puts the users first.</p>
+<p><br clear="left" /></p>
+<p class="akst_link"><a 
href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/?p=109&akst_action=share-this"; 
title="E-mail this, post to del.icio.us, etc." id="akst_link_109" 
class="akst_share_link" rel="nofollow">Share This</a>
+</p></p>
+<p>
+<em><a 
href="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/12/17/some-thoughts-on-the-microsofts-implementation-of-odf/";>by
 Charles at December 17, 2008 05:11 PM GMT</a></em>
+</p>
+<br />
+<hr />
+<br />
 <h2>December 16, 2008</h2>
 <h3>
 <a href="http://lodahl.blogspot.com/"; title="Lodahl's blog">
@@ -409,21 +441,6 @@
 <br />
 <hr />
 <br />
-<h2>November 30, 2008</h2>
-<h3>
-<a href="http://lodahl.blogspot.com/"; title="Lodahl's blog">
-Leif Lodahl</a>&nbsp;:&nbsp;
-<a href="http://lodahl.blogspot.com/2008/11/newsletter.html";>
-Newsletter</a>
-</h3>
-<p>
-The monthly newsletter from the Danish community is out: 
http://doc.oooforum.dk/Nyhed/2008December.pdf</p>
-<p>
-<em><a href="http://lodahl.blogspot.com/2008/11/newsletter.html";>by Leif 
Lodahl ([email protected]) at November 30, 2008 09:31 PM GMT</a></em>
-</p>
-<br />
-<hr />
-<br />
 <a id="disclaimer" name="disclaimer"></a>
 <p><em>Disclaimer: all views expressed on this page are those 
 of the individual contributors, and may not reflect the views of the 

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                <title>Native Language Confederation Planet</title>
-               <dateModified>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:00:38 +0000</dateModified>
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+<item 
rdf:about="http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/12/17/some-thoughts-on-the-microsofts-implementation-of-odf/";>
+       <title>Charles Schulz: Some thoughts on the Microsoft’s 
implementation of ODF</title>
+       
<link>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/12/17/some-thoughts-on-the-microsofts-implementation-of-odf/</link>
+       <content:encoded>&lt;p&gt;This post is a bit hard to write. Let me just 
put it this way: If my predictions below are true, it will mean that Microsoft 
will offer some crippled and low-level support of ODF 1.1 in its next version 
of Microsoft Office. It will also mean that OpenOffice.org will have gained a 
competitive edge on the market.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Now you may wonder why I find it difficult to write down these 
things. The reason is  &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/email/archives/200812/msg00016.html&quot;&gt;the
 recent post of Doug Mahugh&lt;/a&gt; in regard of the support of ODF by MS 
Office. Instead of providing a detailed review on the matter, Doug explains -a 
bit laboriously- that interoperability does not mean that each implementation 
has to do things the same way and that some implementations are more extensive 
than others. We are then being told that Microsoft Office will have limited 
support in for ODF tables in Word.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Doug&amp;#8217;s initial point is true: there are differences in 
implementation of a standard. When you have a truly open standard, you can 
expect implementers to be able to deliver some reliable implementation of the 
standard. Of course, it depends of the implementation&amp;#8217;s focus. 
Suppose for one moment that I&amp;#8217;m in the business of developing and 
selling IT systems for ATMs. I have an OS that sports an user interface for ATM 
transactions, another one for administration, and among several other features, 
an editor that prints out your receipts and the records of your past 
transactions on demand. One might expect that this editor can support ODF 
natively and will create ODF documents. These documents are not very complex, 
and to say it all, they&amp;#8217;re even very basic. All what is required for 
me is to implement the bare minimum of ODF to be compliant and adequately call 
myself compliant. The minimum compliance with ODF is my right, as the vendor of 
the ATM receipts editor. My business is not print complex spreadsheets, nor 
fancy presentations, no: my business is to allow cash machines to print 
customers&amp;#8217; receipts of their cash transactions at the ATM, 
that&amp;#8217;s all.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Now you have Microsoft&amp;#8217;s bellydancing and basically 
declaring that they, who sell the “best office suite on the market” (I 
don&amp;#8217;t make that claim) will offer poor support on ODF because of 
product limitations. Am I the only one here feeling that Redmond is trying 
-again-to play games? Any additional information would be welcome at this 
stage, of course, but the market should pay close attention to this 
issue.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;I have hailed and declared myself positively satisfied the inclusion 
of Microsoft in the ODF committees at the OASIS consortium. I have read the 
contributions of its employees and they were useful and constructive. This 
being said, Doug&amp;#8217;s blog leaves me with an odd taste in my 
mouth.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;To be frank, I feel that Doug has been looking for a way to tell us 
that Microsoft&amp;#8217;s support of ODF will be crappy and that it was 
intended to be that way. I realize I have no substantial evidence of what 
I&amp;#8217;m asserting here, but since when does Microsoft speak of the new 
features of MS Office with a sorry tone?&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#8217;s why I just don&amp;#8217;t know how to properly 
assess what kind of message Microsoft is sending right now. The way I see it, 
Microsoft expects customers will stick to Microsoft Office since it also 
supports an Open Standard, ODF. However, the support of ODF being of poor 
quality, customers will roll back to Microsoft&amp;#8217;s formats, and life 
will go on back like it was in the good old days.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;I realize this is all « prospective » thinking, and that there is 
nothing solid aside Microsoft&amp;#8217;s announcement of poor support of the 
ODF file format. I am disappointed by these news, though. Once again, 
Microsoft&amp;#8217;s declarations turn out to be “all hat, no cattle”. The 
way out of it is known: Choose OpenOffice.org, choose ODF, choose any other 
office suite, but not the one that offers partial support of an open standard 
that puts the users first.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&lt;br clear=&quot;left&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p class=&quot;akst_link&quot;&gt;&lt;a 
href=&quot;http://standardsandfreedom.net/?p=109&amp;akst_action=share-this&quot;
 title=&quot;E-mail this, post to del.icio.us, etc.&quot; 
id=&quot;akst_link_109&quot; class=&quot;akst_share_link&quot; 
rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Share This&lt;/a&gt;
+&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
+       <dc:date>2008-12-17T17:11:34+00:00</dc:date>
+</item>
 <item 
rdf:about="tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5198340507565233169.post-4373353179933806915">
        <title>Leif Lodahl: [Update]Tønder Municipality behind Free IT 
Software for all Schoolchildren</title>
        
<link>http://lodahl.blogspot.com/2008/12/tnder-municipality-behind-free-it.html</link>
@@ -269,12 +292,5 @@
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-       <content:encoded>The monthly newsletter from the Danish community is 
out: http://doc.oooforum.dk/Nyhed/2008December.pdf</content:encoded>
-       <dc:date>2008-11-30T21:31:04+00:00</dc:date>
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        <description>Native Language Confederation Planet - 
http://native-lang.openoffice.org/planet/</description>
 
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+       <title>Charles Schulz: Some thoughts on the Microsoft’s 
implementation of ODF</title>
+       
<guid>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/12/17/some-thoughts-on-the-microsofts-implementation-of-odf/</guid>
+       
<link>http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2008/12/17/some-thoughts-on-the-microsofts-implementation-of-odf/</link>
+       <description>&lt;p&gt;This post is a bit hard to write. Let me just put 
it this way: If my predictions below are true, it will mean that Microsoft will 
offer some crippled and low-level support of ODF 1.1 in its next version of 
Microsoft Office. It will also mean that OpenOffice.org will have gained a 
competitive edge on the market.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Now you may wonder why I find it difficult to write down these 
things. The reason is  &lt;a 
href=&quot;http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/oic/email/archives/200812/msg00016.html&quot;&gt;the
 recent post of Doug Mahugh&lt;/a&gt; in regard of the support of ODF by MS 
Office. Instead of providing a detailed review on the matter, Doug explains -a 
bit laboriously- that interoperability does not mean that each implementation 
has to do things the same way and that some implementations are more extensive 
than others. We are then being told that Microsoft Office will have limited 
support in for ODF tables in Word.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Doug&amp;#8217;s initial point is true: there are differences in 
implementation of a standard. When you have a truly open standard, you can 
expect implementers to be able to deliver some reliable implementation of the 
standard. Of course, it depends of the implementation&amp;#8217;s focus. 
Suppose for one moment that I&amp;#8217;m in the business of developing and 
selling IT systems for ATMs. I have an OS that sports an user interface for ATM 
transactions, another one for administration, and among several other features, 
an editor that prints out your receipts and the records of your past 
transactions on demand. One might expect that this editor can support ODF 
natively and will create ODF documents. These documents are not very complex, 
and to say it all, they&amp;#8217;re even very basic. All what is required for 
me is to implement the bare minimum of ODF to be compliant and adequately call 
myself compliant. The minimum compliance with ODF is my right, as the vendor of 
the ATM receipts editor. My business is not print complex spreadsheets, nor 
fancy presentations, no: my business is to allow cash machines to print 
customers&amp;#8217; receipts of their cash transactions at the ATM, 
that&amp;#8217;s all.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;Now you have Microsoft&amp;#8217;s bellydancing and basically 
declaring that they, who sell the “best office suite on the market” (I 
don&amp;#8217;t make that claim) will offer poor support on ODF because of 
product limitations. Am I the only one here feeling that Redmond is trying 
-again-to play games? Any additional information would be welcome at this 
stage, of course, but the market should pay close attention to this 
issue.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;I have hailed and declared myself positively satisfied the inclusion 
of Microsoft in the ODF committees at the OASIS consortium. I have read the 
contributions of its employees and they were useful and constructive. This 
being said, Doug&amp;#8217;s blog leaves me with an odd taste in my 
mouth.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;To be frank, I feel that Doug has been looking for a way to tell us 
that Microsoft&amp;#8217;s support of ODF will be crappy and that it was 
intended to be that way. I realize I have no substantial evidence of what 
I&amp;#8217;m asserting here, but since when does Microsoft speak of the new 
features of MS Office with a sorry tone?&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;That&amp;#8217;s why I just don&amp;#8217;t know how to properly 
assess what kind of message Microsoft is sending right now. The way I see it, 
Microsoft expects customers will stick to Microsoft Office since it also 
supports an Open Standard, ODF. However, the support of ODF being of poor 
quality, customers will roll back to Microsoft&amp;#8217;s formats, and life 
will go on back like it was in the good old days.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;I realize this is all « prospective » thinking, and that there is 
nothing solid aside Microsoft&amp;#8217;s announcement of poor support of the 
ODF file format. I am disappointed by these news, though. Once again, 
Microsoft&amp;#8217;s declarations turn out to be “all hat, no cattle”. The 
way out of it is known: Choose OpenOffice.org, choose ODF, choose any other 
office suite, but not the one that offers partial support of an open standard 
that puts the users first.&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p&gt;&lt;br clear=&quot;left&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
+&lt;p class=&quot;akst_link&quot;&gt;&lt;a 
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+&lt;/p&gt;</description>
+       <pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
+</item>
+<item>
        <title>Leif Lodahl: [Update]Tønder Municipality behind Free IT 
Software for all Schoolchildren</title>
        
<guid>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5198340507565233169.post-4373353179933806915</guid>
        
<link>http://lodahl.blogspot.com/2008/12/tnder-municipality-behind-free-it.html</link>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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-<item>
-       <title>Leif Lodahl: Newsletter</title>
-       
<guid>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5198340507565233169.post-8159324126494009918</guid>
-       <link>http://lodahl.blogspot.com/2008/11/newsletter.html</link>
-       <description>The monthly newsletter from the Danish community is out: 
http://doc.oooforum.dk/Nyhed/2008December.pdf</description>
-       <pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
-       <author>[email protected] (Leif Lodahl)</author>
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