-1 (non-binding)
just because we're using the abbreviation CXF for convenience reasons
doesn't mean it's a good name at all.
Please name some successful projects with such a short, non speaking
acronym as a name, if any they are few.
I've got 615.000 hits with this acronym on german google, how will you
ensure people are finding us?
How should people talk about CXF? Is it cee-eks-eff? What does it mean,
where's the story? Does it create phantasies? No.
"Anyway, a lot of people
are already associating CXF with the project."
Sorry, Daniel, but a lot of people means a couple of thousands, not the bunch
reading incubator-general. If we were on tss with the name, I would agree, but
at this time there are only a few having associated the name with the project.
To summarize: I don't think acronyms are good names for projects, I recommend
finding a better name now.
Cheers,
Mika
Daniel Kulp schrieb:
I'd like to vote to officially rename the project to Apache CXF.
I'm extremely +1.
There are a lot reasons to do so: (summary of previous discussions)
1) All of our Apache resources are "CXF". If someone goes to apache to
looking for CeltiXfire using the "normal Apache" URL's and such, they won't
find it. Example: if they send a note to celtixfire-dev-subsribe, it would
bounce, etc...
2) Branding - It seems like all of us are calling it CXF in our
communication. However, the "Apache Branding" would require it to use the
full project name. It would be good if it matched to avoid confusion for
users. (Example: in a note on the incubator list during the recent
issues, someone asked why we were calling it CXF.) Anyway, a lot of people
are already associating CXF with the project. Let's build on that.
3) Our package name, jars, install dir, etc.. all use "cxf" right now. No
work would need to be done there. (I'm lazy, I admit it.)
4) No wacky CamelCase spellings to cause confusions and branding issues.
(Celtixfire, CeltiXfire, CeltiXFire, etc..)
5) Already I18N capable. :-) Seriously, we had some chats on IRC
about "how to pronounce" some of the other ideas. Example: Apparently the
word "foam" is hard to pronounce in some locales. Also, "Celtic" is
pronounced different in various locales as well.
6) Break some ties with the "messes" that we've been involved in. I keep
hearing nicknames like "celtic-miss-fire" and such. That's not good. The
recent events certainly didn't help things. A semi-clean slate is probably
a good idea. Make them think of new nicknames. :-)
7) However, by keeping the initials, there is "some" tie to the previous
projects, but the tie is broken enough to make it clear, this really is
something new and better.
8) The top two google links for CXF are already our own confluence space.
Nice job everyone. :-) CXF is an acronym for "Chemical eXchange Format",
but that really shouldn't matter for us.
Thanks!
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