Yep-- Metro does have Spring support-- but it is an add-on feature.  I
think the original point was that Spring is treated as a first-class
citizen in CXF.  Since CXF was designed with Spring in mind, you'll find
that its Spring integration tends to feel a lot more natural (and
complete) than other WS frameworks.

-Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Burgess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 10:38 AM
To: cxf-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: java2wsdl -> wsdl2java lossy? (newbie alert!)

Metro has Spring support.

https://jax-ws-commons.dev.java.net/spring/

Regards,
Randy Burgess
Web Applications Developer
Nuvox Communications



> From: Glen Mazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: <cxf-user@incubator.apache.org>
> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:26:28 -0400
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <cxf-user@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: java2wsdl -> wsdl2java lossy? (newbie alert!)
> 
> Hello Brett,
> 
> Am Donnerstag, den 09.08.2007, 23:37 -0500 schrieb Brett Wooldridge:
> 
>> I may return to CXF at some point, the level of activity here is
encouraging
>> and leads me to think CXF will improve over time.  However -- and
really, I
>> don't mean to knock you guys on your own list but I've kicked the
tires of
>> just about every WS framework out there so I'm just rendering my
opinion --
>> for _my tastes_ CXF is too "heavy".  I'm not particularly a fan of
the
>> Spring baggage.  I like Spring, but I prefer it in my application if
I use
>> it, not in my framework dependencies.
>> 
> 
> You're mentioning a major differentiator between the JAX-WS RI and
> CXF--one incorporates Spring by default, while the other doesn't.
Some
> will prefer one architecture over the other for that very reason.
> 
> (It is kind of like the difference between the GPL open source
license,
> where the emphasis is on making sure that all software incorporating a
> GPL product remains *free*, vs. the Apache license, where the emphasis
> is on making sure the software gets *used*, free or not free, to the
> greatest extent possible.  No right or wrong answer, but just a
> preference depending on the particular creator of the software.)
> 
> *Not* incorporating Spring has its own drawbacks, as mentioned on the
> JAX-WS RI mailing list yesterday[1]--namely, you sometimes need to
> reinvent the wheel and learn product-specific configuration methods
that
> aren't transferable (like Spring knowledge) to other fields.
> 
> Keep in mind, CXF is just the bottom part of a whole suite of
> products--Apache Camel, ServiceMix, ActiveMQ, perhaps I can include
> Tuscany and Apache ODE as well.  The Apache CXF team seems to have
> accepted that for most users, sooner or later, Spring is going to show
> up in your application, so it might as well take advantage of it early
> to the greatest extent possible.  And if a user doesn't really want
> Spring, Sun offers an fine implementation without it.
> 
> [1]
> https://metro.dev.java.net/servlets/ReadMsg?listName=users&msgNo=1416
> 
> Regards,
> Glen
> 
> 



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