From: Nick Steadman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you'll find the official UK baton round energy figure is 200 Joules. As to what UK police have - they're issued with exactly the same H&K baton gun & ammunition as the army - this launcher (essentially H&K's 40mm MZP with a 38mm barrel) replaced the horrid old L67A1. Police have no option in this matter - the UK MOD & Home Office co-operate on baton gun policy. Nick Steadman Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters.org List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___________________________________________________________ T O P I C A The Email You Want. http://www.topica.com/t/16 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics