If u think this is brotherhood, u should start swimming at the rec sometime.  
There's a dude there, the godfather of the chlorine, who's  mission in life is 
to help u enjoy the group swim and find your Zen stroke.  I think we even 
triangulate sometimes.  Like the lakes and bulls old offenses.

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From: "Chris Smith" <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:55 am
Subject: [COWs] Re: Turbo Dan/white lake
To: "CyclistsOfWilson-COWs" <[email protected]>

Nope, I do not swim, at least not in terms of "training" or sporting
events. I do visit the pool a few times a week to have fun and "swim
around" a bit. I am planning to certify SCUBA next summer, something
I've wanted to do for years. But, I'm a strict roadie. I started
"racing" competitvely a couple of years ago and devote all my time to
that. It's hard to be in the crit scene unless you make that your
training focus and priority. That's also where I learned just how
small of a fish I am. Well, more like a minnow. No...more like a
tadpole. Anyway, you get the idea.

Well, we are all "recreational" cyclists, despite the fact that some
times we think we are pro. Which is why I say no matter how good each
of us get, it is relative, and often times we find ourselves in
situations that remind us exactly where our real place is in the
cycling world. Most of the time that place is at the bottom of the
food chain. At the end of the day I think we all ride our bikes trying
to have a good time, enjoying the scenery, testing our masochistic
limits, and trying to do a little good for our bodies.

And there is a certain comradery among cycliststhat trumps ability,
socio-economic status, age, color, etc. You know exactly what I mean.
When you meet another cyclist there is an instant connection. I am a
good example of this. No one here "knows" me, but I've recently joined
in with the group and am enjoying great cycling conversation with a
number of you. And all it took was for you to know I'm a fellow
cyclist. Kind of like a brotherhood. And that is something you will
not find in other "recreational" activities.

Would very much like to join a group ride with some of you guys,
especially now that I'm having dialogue and getting to "know" a few of
you guys on this Google group.  :-)

On Sep 11, 11:34 pm, ssp <[email protected]> wrote:
> ....
>
> ....dude,
> excellent synopsis.
> Thanks for sharing.
> ...and I thought turboD and davidC were the speed  beasts~
> now I feel better about my 'relative'  recreational
> abilities.
>
> You swim?
> m-fri 12-1pm
> @the bubble
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Chris Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Doc, thanks for the mention. hen I was relaying the ride to you
> > yesterday I used even numbers for the sake of the conversation, and b/
> > c I had not had a chance to analyze the ride file until last night. To
> > make sure there is no misunderstanding, I have taken the time to look
> > closely at my ride file and spoke to a couple of the 6 core guys to
> > make sure I represent the ride accurately. Here it is in brief.
>
> > MS New Bern - goal: sub 4 hour century. Started ride with a group of
> > 30 guys pace between 27-30mph. Within 5 miles it became clear there
> > was only ~10-12 guys that were able to work at the front. The rest sat
> > in at the back. No credit away from them, they were working hard
> > sitting in the back! By the mile 15 we were down to 20-22 riders with
> > 8-10 of us rotating off the front driving the pace. The other 10-14
> > guys were sitting in the back (but remember they were still
> > "working"). By mile 30 we were down to a group of 14. Pace remained
> > 27-30mph and only 6-8 of us "working" at the front and 2 of that
> > number were bearing 65% of the main workload. Mile 40 we looked back

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