On May 26 08:00, Andy Koppe wrote: > On 25 May 2011 16:51, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > On May 25 09:54, Thomas Wolff wrote: > >> Am 25.05.2011 09:43, schrieb Andy Koppe: > >> >... > >> >Ah, sorry, I didn't realise that the desktop shortcut at the moment > >> >was simply called "Cygwin" rather than "Cygwin Bash Shell". I suppose > >> >that could just stay like that actually. > >> > > >> >Also, since the start menu shortcut already is inside the "Cygwin" > >> >folder, just "Terminal" rather than "Cygwin Terminal" would be nice > >> >and crisp there. > >> I think common usage is to give shortcuts rather a complete name. > >> That's also better if people move them around, placing a copy on the > >> desktop etc. > >> And since bash shell runs in both command windows (is that a common > >> name?), I think the previous proposal "Cygwin Console" and "Cygwin > >> Terminal" is the best to distinguish them. > > > > I'm wondering if renaming the shortcuts is wise. > > > > New users should get the new shortcuts, but what about users who just > > update Cygwin? If we rename the shortcuts, existing users will > > have both check buttons in the last dialog checked again, even if they > > already had installed the "old" shortcuts before. > > > > Alternatively setup could test for the old and the new shortcut names, > > and only install if neither the old, nor the new ones exist. > > Gah, this is surprisingly difficult. > > How about: > > - Don't rename the desktop shortcut, leaving it as "Cygwin". This > means that it won't change for users that already have one, nor will > they get another desktop shortcut. Only newly created desktop > shortcuts would point at mintty, resulting in a somewhat more phased > introduction instead of springing it on users, which seems a prudent > thing to do.
Agreed. > - Offer the start menu item creation unless either "Console" or > "Terminal" is present in the Cygwin folder. If requested, remove > "Cygwin Bash Shell" and create "Console" and "Terminal". (Add "Cygwin" > prefixes according to taste. I think anyone who moves the shortcuts > elsewhere would be quite capable of renaming them if they feel the > need to.) Ooh, no. I really don't like the idea to offer two start menu entries by default. I'm not sure a lot of people even have a vague understanding what the difference between "console" and "terminal" is. If in doubt, I bet most people will choose the alphabetically first entry without reading or thinking, quite along the lines of http://www.joelonsoftware.com/uibook/chapters/fog0000000062.html If we really do that, the name of the console entry should be last, and ugly, so that people choose the "Cygwin Terminal" entry with a higher probability. "Windows Console window with a bash within, only use if you must" or something. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat