On 27 July 2011 22:11, Warren Young wrote: > On 7/27/2011 2:04 PM, Andy Koppe wrote: >> >> - The 16x16 has white dots in the corners. > > That was a feature. But you no like it, I make go 'way.
Thanks. >> - There are black edges around the icons. Those need to be transparent. > > Why? > > I purposely redrew the edges in the smaller icons for contrast and clarity. > (Among other things.) Because the Konsole icon edges are black, I made the > semitransparent pixels you get from simple downsampling pure black. If all > you want is the blurry mess you get from a direct downsample, there's no > point in having the smaller icons at all. > > Maybe a dark gray would make you happier? Something that approximates the > appearance of a thin black line blending into the background the icon is > being matted on, without trying to make use of alpha blending? > > My old skool heritage is showing. I've been trained not to use alpha > blending a 32 px and below. When I was a boy, all we had was 8 bpp with one > color reserved for yes/no transparency, AND WE LIKED IT. > > Is this outmoded? Will XP do the right thing with RGBA for 16 px icons? Is > that a good idea regardless, or is old skool the only skool? I don't know about that. What I do know is that the Konsole icon looks fine to me, including at 16px, and that I haven't had any complaints about it. To me, the black/grey border just looked like something went wrong with transparency during the conversion. Also, at 16px, the left and right sides of the terminal screen's frame have actually gone. >> - Contrast and saturation are rather low. I think it would be better >> to overlay the Cygwin symbol on top of the terminal rather than >> blending them. > > Here it is: > > http://etr-usa.com/cygwin/mintty-icon/no-text.ico That looks a lot better, thanks. Nice work removing the prompt. Did you go back to the original SVG to do that? > It also has the gray edges on the smaller icons instead of black, and > transparent corners in the 16x16. > > I had to remove the text, which makes the result not as clearly a terminal. > At 256 and arguably at 48 px, you can figure out that it might be a > terminal, especially if you've seen the icon in its previous incarnation. > At 32 px and below, I challenge anyone to honestly tell me that there is > any sense of "terminal" left in this version. Fair point. > One could make an argument for going back to the plain old Konsole icon. > Maybe one icon cannot serve two masters. Just to be clear: I'd be happy with the modernized Cygwin icon too. I still prefer both that and the Konsole icon over the combined one (even ignoring the issue with the non-transparent border). Thanks again for putting in this effort to have something tangible to compare with. Andy