----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary R. Van Sickle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I haven't broken my head though; you must *really* have been
frustrated with
> Gates' cash cow. ;-)

I did spent an inordinate amount of time cursing gdb, which has decided
to crash viewing a particular class in setup-HEAD, and I thought that
was related to the hangs I was seeing.... then I noticed the mutual
recursion :}.

D'oh!.

Rob

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