On 2021-03-07 13:44, Ken Brown via Cygwin wrote:
On 3/7/2021 2:34 PM, Marco Atzeri via Cygwin wrote:
On 07.03.2021 17:58, Ken Brown via Cygwin wrote:
I have a CI job which runs 'setup -q -P python3,python3-lxml'.  It's nice if that gets me something where "python3 -c 'import lxml'" works, and doesn't require changing every time the default python version is updated.

Currently python3 is a meta-package whose main purpose is to require the default python version (currently python38).  Marco, couldn't you just make python3-foo a meta-package that requires the corresponding python*-foo (currently python38-foo)?

the issue is that Cygport creates the "obsolete" python3-foo
that is replaced by python36-foo automatically.

we should change cygport to use python38 instead
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$ cat python3-lxml/python3-lxml-4.6.2-1.hint
category: _obsolete
requires: python36-lxml
sdesc: "Obsoleted by python36-lxml"
ldesc: "The python3-lxml package is obsolete.  Selecting this package for
installation will cause the python36-lxml package, which replaces this
one, to be installed instead."
external-source: python-lxml

As long as you have to patch cygport anyway, maybe it would be better to have cygport create an empty (but not obsolete) package.  I think users might find it confusing that they have to install an obsolete package to get what they want. Also, obsolete packages are normally hidden in the setup UI.

Hidden generic/virtual package selections in Debian apt/-get and other package managers are annoying as users (I!) don't know how to do anything when they find out about them e.g.

        $ apt show exim
        Package: exim
        State: not a real package (virtual)
        N: Can't select candidate version from package exim as it has no 
candidate
        N: Can't select versions from package 'exim' as it is purely virtual
        N: No packages found

Suggest adding a category like ~Generic or ~Virtual to sort out of the way but be selectable if you search for Python, Perl, Ruby, etc.

I have been unable to find any definitive category list where that might be checked, except in cygwin-apps/calm/genini, and I believe that is not being used any more, as it is missing Debug but includes obsolete Mingw.

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