Regarding recent comments on dll problems and understanding cygwin1.dll versus 
msvcrt,
I was curious to know if anyone has used these ( free? ) MS tools or has 
comments on competing
products?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc267862.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/devtools/debugging/installx86.mspx

I thought I may be able to download a few pieces like some of the sysinternals 
products
but AFAIK you now need to download 17MB and hope the msi doesn't do anything 
funny. It may be worth it but if there is a better alternative I'd like to try 
that first.
Apparently gdb didn't let you do anything until getting to main() which is 
after the initial
process loads but some of the pages for the above tools suggest you can examine 
loading.

Also, fwiw, that glut program I cited earlier as an example of something that 
seems
to work but that invokes msvcrt and cygwin1, is available here,

http://www.spottext.com/marchywka/distroform.cfm?src=cygwindll

but I will warn you that there is nothing ready for distribution and the pages 
are a bit confusing. 
I collected a bunch of works-in-progress and started to make them available as 
part of
other work I was doing. I finally did determine that the streaming data viewer 
and
molecule viewer uses for the glut program were in fact useful to me and tried to
document some of the features but I'm not sure I will ever document or clean 
anything
up to the point of being coherent. The glut program does not always seem to 
start up reliably
on first invokation after a reboot and does have odd response to ctrl-C but 
otherwise seems
fine ( I assumed this was an issue with opengl,  not cygwin). 


Thanks.




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> Subject: RE: fate/resolution/location of things like "sys/sockio.h"
> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:03:55 -0400
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>> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 00:54:37 -0700
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Mike Marchywka wrote:
>>
>>> $ g++ nmapjunk.a libdnet-stripped/src/junkbin.a liblua/junkbin.a -Lnbase 
>>> -lnbase -Lnsock/src -lnsock -Llibpcap -lpcap -liphlpapi -lws2_32 -lpcre -L. 
>>> -lPacket
>>
>> I would not expect this to work in any case. Cygwin has no libpcap, so
>> you must be using the native windows winpcap, which is not a Cygwin
>> library (it's linked with MSVCRT.)
>>
>
> I have winpcap for an earlier install of ShowTraffic which runs fine. The 
> nmap download
> comes with its own and getting everything consistent may be a problem but I 
> can't
> come up with a diagnostic that confirms death during packet.dll load. I guess 
> that is
> why I am more interested in diagnostic tools rather than expecting to find 
> someone who
> knows offhand how to link my c++ version of nmap :)
>
> Is there some simple way to get gdb to tell you what it was trying to do if 
> it dies before getting
> to main()? From what I could tell, you couldn't set a break point etc to 
> diagnose the
> CRT initialization stuff. As far as that goes, what tools are there for 
> dumping object or "a" files?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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>> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 00:54:37 -0700
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> CC: cygwin@cygwin.com
>> Subject: Re: fate/resolution/location of things like "sys/sockio.h"
>>
>> Mike Marchywka wrote:
>>
>>> $ g++ nmapjunk.a libdnet-stripped/src/junkbin.a liblua/junkbin.a -Lnbase 
>>> -lnbase -Lnsock/src -lnsock -Llibpcap -lpcap -liphlpapi -lws2_32 -lpcre -L. 
>>> -lPacket
>>
>> I would not expect this to work in any case. Cygwin has no libpcap, so
>> you must be using the native windows winpcap, which is not a Cygwin
>> library (it's linked with MSVCRT.)
>>
>> Brian
>>
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