also sprach Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.10.09.1931 +0200]:
> What is wrong which just exchanging the keys for ad hoc mode? You could
cache
> them and log whenever a key has changed (at least allowing to detect a MITM
> post facto).

.. like SSH, huh?

> We're really looking for blanket rollout of a low-security
> service which wouldn't stand a dedicated attacker yet would effectively
> prevent large-scale screening of cleartext traffic as currently practised
by
> diverse TLAs.

I am all for it. This should be implementable in a cousin of
isakmpd, no?

PS: please don't CC me on mailing lists...

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