--- "Trei, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Thompson > > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:13 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder > > > > > > --- Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [airport security] > > > More indications of an emerging 'Brazil' scenario, as opposed to a > > > hyper-intelligent super-fascist state. > > > > As if. > > > > There already is a kind of intelligent super-fascist state in place > > thoughout much of society. My bugbears of the moment are the > > police and > > courts, so you get my take on how they are organised so as to be > > 'intelligent' without seeming so -- which further enables a > > whole lot of > > fraud to masqerade as process and incompetence. The > > super-fascist part > > comes about because the system avoids public accountability while also > > somehow evading any sort of reasonable standard of performance. > > > > What's the error rate, that is the false arrest, prosecution, and/or > > conviction rate of a Western countries' judiciary and police > > divitions? > > If it's even ten percent, and it's probably much higher, then > > there is no > > reason to respect the operation and perpetuation of the system. > > One chilling data point. Remember a few years ago the (pro death > penalty) governor of Illinois suspended all the death sentences in > has state? The reason being was that with the introduction of DNA > testing, 1/3 of the people on death row were found to be innocent. > > I don't know how many other innocents the state planned to murder, > but presumably there were some cases where DNA evidence was not > available. > > If, in a capital case, where the money to pay public defenders > is usually maximally available, and the appeals process, checks, > and cross-checks are the more thorough than in any non-capital > prosecution, you STILL get at least a 33% error rate, then what > is the wrongfull conviction rate in non-capital cases, where there > are far fewer appeals, and public defenders are paid a pittance? > > Peter Trei >
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