At 8:48 AM -0800 3/4/00, Steve Mynott wrote:
>I would have thought the very name "cypherpunks" suggests list
>sympathies lie more on the "hacker" side then on those of
>self-professed security experts.
>
>On Fri, Mar 03, 2000 at 07:30:24PM -0500, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>
>> When cypherpunks was founded, most of the readers on the list were actively
>> involved in computer security. I strongly suspect that most readers of the
>> list today are hacker 'wannabees', certainly this was the case when I
>> stopped reading the list on a regular basis two years ago (although much of
>> the material posted by the people I used to follow on the list is
>> crossposted or forwarded to me so in effect what I do read probably closely
>> resembles the original.)

More to the point, Phillip Hallam-Baker is simply _wrong_ in his
asssertions above, about the founding period of the list.

As to the throwaway line about "most readers of the list today are hacker
'wannabees,'" this tells us all we need to know.


--Tim May

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Timothy C. May              | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money,
ComSec 3DES:   831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero
W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA  | knowledge, reputations, information markets,
"Cyphernomicon"             | black markets, collapse of governments.

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