>At 06:54 AM 11/28/00 -0500, Ken Brown wrote: >>Of course if they leave the machine [Carnivore] in the cage you can always >stop >>feeding it electricity. Or take it home to show the neighbours. It might >>make a good conversation piece at dinner. Or maybe use it as an ashtray. > >>At 10:36 PM 11/27/00 -0500, Tim May wrote: >>CALEA has some onerous language in it, but it doesn't trump the >>Fourth Amendment. > > >You could try the Carnivore box against an implemention of your Second >Amendment rights. Unless the chassis were hardened you'd win. I seriously doubt they make NT boxes that are hardened against a .50 BMG. -- A quote from Petro's Archives: ********************************************** "Despite almost every experience I've ever had with federal authority, I keep imagining its competence." John Perry Barlow