Welp, I got you to concede in favour of semantic frippery, so I'm done here. :)
Juan Garofalo <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Saying "democracy doesn't work" is meaningless. > > That is because the term "democracy" itself is meanignless. > >> Democracy means, in >> ideal, "rule by the governed". > > See? "rule by the governed" is a contradiction in terms. > > >> If your examples don't fit that criteria, >> they're not really democracies, just as the USSR wasn't really >socialism, >> England isn't really monarchism, and The Republic of Ireland (not >> currently concerning itself with matters of the res publica/ public >> interest) isn't really a Republic. > >> >> "James A. Donald" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On 2013-11-27 10:26, Al Billings wrote: >>>> If democracy doesn't work, what are people suggesting? Is this when >>> the >>>> Libertarian masks come off? >>> >>> Monarchy, anarcho capitalism, anarcho piratism, military >dictatorship. >>> Or perhaps a republic with the franchise limited to property owning >>> heads of households with good credit records. >>> >>> Observe that police in wealthy neighborhoods are much better than >>> police >>> in poor neighborhoods. Do you think that is the result of voting? >>> >>> You presumably agree that the people's popular democracies were not >all >>> >>> that democratic, because they made sure that everyone voted >communist, >>> and a party member always got elected, and it did not matter who got > >>> elected anyway since actual decisions were made elsewhere. >>> >>> Well that is pretty much the system we have in the western >democracies. >>> >>> The actual decisions are made by the permanent and fireproof >>> bureaucracy. If the elections come out wrong, they ignore the result >>> and >>> work to make sure the next elections come out right. >>> Brainwashing in school, population replacement, and if that does not > >>> work, the permanent and unelected government just ignores the >outcome >>> of >>> the vote, as for example the various votes on affirmative action and > >>> immigration. >>> >>> One demotic regime, turns out in practice to be remarkably similar >to >>> another demotic regime. >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
