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On 11/12/2015 05:30 PM, juan wrote: > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:32:51 -0500 Steve Kinney > <ad...@pilobilus.net> wrote: > >> The Obama abomination stirred up a lot of middle class >> Liberals; > > > What could that possibly mean? 'Stirred'? Obama is the > quintessential hero of the middle class american 'liberal' > (aka left wing, 'politicall correct' fascist) "Liberals," so-called, are not cardboard cutouts; they are human beings. Two value reasoning, the passionate belief that the Left/Right axis describes real world politics, and judging others accordingly makes one a helpless cripple in the political sphere. That's why Amerikans have been so carefully and thoroughly taught to see and respond to the world around them through that frame of reference. >> their demographic is now well represented in public events >> that have little or nothing to do with partisan politics. >> The Bernie business is likely to bring a large wave of mad >> as hell, > > sanders? an american 'socialists' senator*? what is he supposed > to stand for? Political attitude surveys consistently show a popular mandate for what most would call Socialist economic policies and institutions in the U.S. Of course, in a Fascist State ruled by an astronomically wealthy oligarchy, no such thing is allowed. Hence the novelty and extraordinary popular appeal of Bernie Sanders. I expect his failure to deliver will radicalize a rather large number of people who would presently be described as Liberal. I know from observation that the Obama deception had that effect. > You seem to be wearing your rose colored glasses... Just a cognitive bias toward well documented evidence and lessons of personal experience, and a lifetime of studying the art and science of propaganda. I got hooked on propaganda when I was 11 or 12 and never lost interest. Propaganda is the principal formative influence on social norms and political beliefs in the media-saturated "developed" nations. No one escapes the influence of propaganda, but those who do not study propaganda will be controlled by it. :o) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWRVPuAAoJEDZ0Gg87KR0Li8YQALZxsaAW67BbIRIC8YeiU8b7 vrqdChBsvtEeI5tErLIrDzOpzfonzEC3F/rwUlNsE7O7GK9e6OiO7e+hYQZGr1e6 vlImJyUGIu9DqVPA0ZszLpHl1atZWGoxt4qgGMv/3ToeMEjhCzX8JxbwGym2Luah fmt3ybTeOuRz03Ce+NZ5hX7zdnbtfIK4UJCxVhPlNmWfm6iiGP1udi3KnDOEuGop Y6hIEpRehZSJXZIhZpqJKjQ6JAeJW582vmdTwXIJFXwaNABXzRUzI4ISw4/GEveO z+7Jm3B8p1V3QfHfNCsMH1mM89dnzkeXoXHGk07HAHM/noYu1bD9ihh71cAGnPkp au9W3SxMegaLo1IveIWco+B92PGs8gCQVLcUoCJr3l68B6YgAR55JfpFv8g//pXv Qd3X2oyxQNF/KYslpRzKSqqOj2fXZ/jriBoeKiIUDMq/MxTDw/72G0OwWW4RbgHH a5HUXXmZChmDBVhkJXypnN007/5rsWikQnYSIb2ywIeY/bIVA+Dje626PY7TkeG/ e2gdVfId89sxmgN3DdaC9aWQJ6gPq3ku1NEmFZPLhwCGN9bWvdee0OYbvakRpUft nctmbPrghnEMuGU6ry7+lnQXI5lFpQWNViDXiEmlXEXHChFhXdBgyCM74hfrhpvN rQvR8QPsbSS8DJeSv93a =K2d8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----