On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 13:00:06 -0400
Steve Kinney <ad...@pilobilus.net> wrote:


> To the people who "know" that TOR is a complete sham designed to
> compromise unwary users, Appelbaum ranks with Hitler,


        1) tor was created and is still funded by the US military.
        
        2) the US military created tor to allow them to hide part of
        their 'intelligence gathering' activities, spying and the like.

        3) if only people from the US government connected to tor then
        the network would be useless. It would be obvious for any
        observer that activity from the tor network came from the US
        government. That is the exact reason why tor needs a large and 
        diverse user base. 

        So, what the people responsible for tor (syverson, dingledine,
        appelbaum...etc) did is setting up a system that allows
        the US government/military to be anonymous **using ordinary
        people like you and me as cover**.

        4) last but not least, the anonimity that tor provides for
        ordinary people is limited. The US government can 'deanonymize'
        tor users (and especially 'hidden' services) because they can
        monitor a large part of the internet. In a sense tor is
        completely 'backdoored', by design. 



        So Steve tell me that tor isn't a complete sham. Well you could
        or course argue that being only a 97% sham proves your point...



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