On 07/09/2016 01:29 PM, juan wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 23:03:00 -0600 > Mirimir <miri...@riseup.net> wrote: > > >>>> Was there an option to not join any state? >>> >>> I suspect not, but in the context, I think that would literally have >>> been suicide. Or endless civil war as we see since then (the last >>> two years) in eastern Ukraine. >> >> I find it hard to imagine how anarchist societies could develop in our >> currently state-dominated world. > > Well, the statists can simply leave the anarchists alone. Sure > it's unlikely, but it's simple.
Yes, very unlikely. > But my point was that the referendum wasn't especially > pristine. > > The soundest pro russian argument here may be that the russians > didn't raze crimea to the ground...which is something the NATO > humanitarians were more likely to do. > > > >> Anarchist societies have survived >> through isolation, and some still do. But how does that work in places >> under active state contention? >> >> Also, anarchy seems to work best when everyone is more-or-less equally >> powerful. Everyone has the same weapons, for example. In science >> fiction, anarchist societies typically depend on some new technology >> that eliminates states' power monopoly. > > What technologies? The only 'technology' I can imagine making a > difference would be some sort of physical shield that would > make it impossible for individuals to be physically attacked. Vinge's bobbles? But then we get to _Marooned in Realtime_. >> Maybe it'll be the >> Singularity. > > The sigularity is singular bullshit. If anything it seems > likely to replace(i. e. kill) humanity with a bunch of > motherfucking psychos like kurzweil and the rest of master-race > 'elite' lunatics. I like https://anarplex.net/hosted/files/last_trumpet/LTP.pdf :)
