> On Jul 11, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Rayzer <ray...@riseup.net> wrote: > > > >> On 07/11/2016 06:26 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: >>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 10:04:42AM -0700, Rayzer wrote: >>> "You know? You kids stopped that war!" >>> >>> >>> Yes... Yes we did. But NOT before we "Brought the war home", and it >>> wasn't JUST kids. BTW, he was alive for the invasion of Iraq and DID NOT >> >> Glad to hear this, but I am not sure it is true. >> >> Almost all protests have zero effects, not counting damages between >> protesters and cops. "Occupy Wallstreet?". > > Occupy Wall Steeet wasn't a focused protest it was a general > insurrection and it was fun but insurrections either disintegrate or > they are crushed. I'm talking about coordinated action on a single focus > with tens of thousands of people in the streets all across the US and > all sorts of side shows like continual sabotage of the system.... The > "Dave Graebers" and other 'vanguard' types were there to fuck everything > up too, but for the most part they has so little control over > organizations that what happened on the street was not what they > intended, but EVERYONE was FOCUSED ON THE WAR. > > EVERYONE knew someone killed or maimed in Vietnam, or their GF's brother > was killed there. The US government was turning college students into > cannon fodder with the draft and if your grades didn't keep up with the > continually changing requirements of the selective service... changed to > suit their manpower needs, off you went and your organized religion > wasn't gonna help you either. They'd be glad to pray over your coffin > and call you a hero though. > > This is why AUTOMATED WARFARE. It IS most likely the PRIMARY REASON for it > > Americans don't like to see the remains of their loved ones come home in > a sack on a C-5a Globemaster and it undermines the Pentagon's ability to > make war. > > Want to change things? Anything. It take two traits utterly lacking in > American society at the moment. > > Rage and Focus. Richard Nixon may have sat in to Oval Orifice during the > post-Cambodia invasion moratorium as the WH was surrounded by tens of > thousands of people with a pitched street battle between protestors and > swarms of cop on Pennsylvania Avenue. > > But he 'blinked', and the US began negotiating... Carpet bombing VIetnam > at the same time with HUGE protests about that too, but within a few > years it was "Helicopters from the embassy roof". > > Rr
I wonder how different shit may have played out if Nixon hadn't been so blatantly crooked he was caught and impeached.... he dropped more explosives on Cambodia, and obfuscated the flight logs to hide it, than all the combined Allied bombings from ww2 John
