On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 07:54:19PM -0700, Rayzer wrote: > As far as your other missive's link goes: > > Erdogan Taunts Obama Over Coup Attempt in Turkey > Erdogan will not forgive the Obama administration for leading him up the > garden path on Syria, convincing him that Washington was leaving no > stone unturned to overthrow the Assad regime > http://atimes.com/2016/07/erdogan-taunts-obama-over-turkeys-coup-bid/ > > > > Erdogan's hand is ISIS, and they're already all over Europe thanks to > the Russian AF rout,
Rayzer, seriously, are you serious? Which North Atlantic + European military bloc rhyming with poTATO is Turkey+Erdogan a member of again? (Hint: NATO.) And which country is Syria's primary military partner and long term ally again? (Hint: Russia.) And who was it that intended to overthrow Syria again? (Hint: USA.) And who was it that established ISIS, trained, funded and provided weapons to ISIS collaborators, provided military and logistical support to invade Syria and was loudly proclaiming for 4 years that "Assad must go"? (Hint: USA.) Did you not watch that interview/ talk by USA General Wesley Clark? Here it is again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8YtF76s-yM http://www.globalresearch.ca/we-re-going-to-take-out-7-countries-in-5-years-iraq-syria-lebanon-libya-somalia-sudan-iran/5166 (article links to the full Wesley Clark interview - recommended (I'd only seen the short most significant part before) Rayzer, you are parroting the establishment/ MSM position, is that position truthful? (Hint: it is a lie.) To remind ourselves of a few further facts: - The first refugee waves into Europe came from Afganistan and then Iraq. - The second refugee wave into Europe came from Libya. Until Qaddafi's murder at the hands of Hillary "We came, we saw, he died" Clinton, Libya essentially "captured" a lot of African refugees (look how many CIA ops and USA MIC wars are going on in Africa), and Libya provided a lot of employment, hope, accomodation and, relatively speaking, stability. Look at the immigration of actual refugees into Europe since Libya was "democratically liberated" by the West (USA, France, Germany, UK). - Only the third wave comes from Syria, and this wave of refugees into Europe from Syria began --way-- before Russia went into Syria to rescue her ally, only in November/December last year (Hint: 2015)! And this third wave has predominantly been from Turkey, not Syria - and Erdogan used it as blackmail for a few billion $Euro from Germany - many times Erdogan was blackmailing in fact. Turkey to Lesbos (Greek island) has been a main conduit for Syrian, Iraqi and Afghani refugees, for one example. If you look at the media though, you see a different story (the lie that is), you see all this "ooh, so much Muslim refugees into Europe, since BAD RUSSIA went to defend Syria!" > and they ARE mixed in with the refugee population, > and they HAVE terrorized those refugees to not talk, and IF Erdogan > doesn't get a BIG part of the Syrian Partition pie... Selah... Since you seem to know details about Erdogan's deals with Russia, perhaps you care to share them with the rest of us?