On 07/19/2016 02:12 AM, stef wrote: > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:44:16AM +0300, Georgi Guninski wrote: >> Instead of only bashing tor, why not discuss the alternatives and move >> to something allegedly better? >> >> Certainly some advanced attack and/or backdoor will screw them all. >> >> For a start, I would like to know: >> >> 1. What are alternatives to tor (possibly with less functionality)? > from the top of my head: > dissent, > riffle, > i2p, > mixminion > pynchon-gate > percy++ > >> 2. Is the alternative known to be in bed with shady stuff like TLAs? >> 3. Did they have braindamaged bugs (like debian's openssl memset())? >> 4. What is their security/anonymity bug history? >> 5. To what attacks they are known to be vulnerable? >> 6. To what attacks they are conjectured to be immune? >> >> As an aside, I heard critique of Riffle: MIT are allegedly in bed with >> USA. Don't know it this makes sense or not. >> > ---end quoted text--- >
dissent, riffle, i2p, mixminion pynchon-gate percy++ NONE of these are intended for the same target audience as tor. IOW NONE of the above could CONCEIVABLY be used by a journalist or computer-illiterate dissident in Tanzania right NOW. And honestly, imho, I2P is probably just a compromises as tor, but it's so much more fucking obuscurant, to hide that possibility. I tried using it for a while. Fucking useless and continues to be so. No one's mentioned Retroshare. It seems a likely candidate. Rr
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