> On Jul 26, 2016, at 3:08 PM, Shawn K. Quinn <skqu...@rushpost.com> wrote: > > On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 15:35 -0300, juan wrote: >> People could do lots of different things...if they owned their >> phones. But the phones are owned by apple. The phone users are >> owned by apple too, and by the US government. > > Not all of them; in fact I think Android has taken the lead over iOS in > mobile phones, though I understand if one balks at trusting Google.
Depending on which phone you have and which ROM you flash onto it, you can get an Android phone that is -mostly- independent of the Google ecosystem - an independent app store (F-droid), firefox as the browser, different mail clients (k-9, etc)…. different EVERYTHING, basically, but the core system for managing the UI, and connecting to networks/making calls/etc. I mean, yes, you are still running google code at the core of the thing - but you can get some distance. E.g. - https://fsfe.org/campaigns/android/liberate.en.html http://www.xda-developers.com/setting-up-android-marshmallow-without-google/ http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/using-android-without-google/ Over the years I’ve played with dozens of ROMs on a handful of different android phones… its fun screwing around with them. I’ve gotta keep an iPhone for work, and honestly the iPhone 5s looks like a piece of fucking junk compared to my nexus 6. John