On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:55:24 -0400
John Newman <j...@synfin.org> wrote:
> I disagree, vehemently. Global warming is not a red herring.
> Permafrost is melting, oceans are rising and acidifying, and the
> future for big coastal cities is looking very bleak indeed. There is
> a scientific consensus on this issue.
Truth is not reached by 'consensus'. That's not science but
groupthink.
Also, it's not called global warming anymore. The new name
which has been in use for more than a couple of years is
'climate change'. And of course the climate is changing, It has
been chaning for millions of years and it will keep changing.
It just so happens that 'climate change' is a perfect excuse
for government to control every single movement of every person
on the planet. Way better than 'terrorism'.
Jason does have a point about pollution. But of course, even the
'war on pollution' can be used as a tool for political control.
Another thing : old crony capitalists have recycled themselves
as green crony capitalists and how they get billions in
subsidies for being 'green'.
> But yes of course pollution does suck ass...
>
> --
> John
>
> > On Aug 16, 2016, at 1:06 PM, Jason McVetta
> > <jason.mcve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:44 PM, John <j...@synfin.org> wrote:
> >> The thing about Trump is he thinks climate change / global warming
> >> is a hoax.
> >
> > Here's the thing: global warming is a red herring. Whether or not
> > anthropogenic climate change is real - dumping pollution into the
> > environment still sucks balls. So at the behest of the bigmedia
> > propaganda organs, perfectly well-intentioned people on both sides
> > endlessly argue over dodgy, politicized science.
> >
> > Yet regardless which side is right about global warming, almost
> > everyone agrees that pollution blows oats and should be reduced.
> >
