On 08/20/2016 09:20 PM, Razer wrote: > > > On 08/20/2016 07:42 PM, Mirimir wrote: > > >> My point is that you haven't characterized the players accurately. > > Ok then... Characterize them. I assume most of the outcasts and > mutineers are NOT 'suits', or government affiliated.
But maybe that's just what they want us to think ;) And maybe there's conflict among government-affiliated factions. DOS vs NSA vs CIA vs FBI etc. > (Albeit there may be infiltration occurring in the ranks of the > disaffected... because it's quite easy to act disaffected,. Sort of like > it's easy to learn the Marxist dialectic and infiltrate a Marxist > organization... Which is Why counterculture groups fared better in the > infiltration department during Vietnam anti-war activities too... "Here > (cop) take this LSD...") Maybe acid is part of high-level CIA training ;) > But I digress... Characterize them Hopeless :( > Rr > >> On 08/20/2016 07:27 PM, Razer wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 08/20/2016 03:09 PM, Mirimir wrote: >>>> On 08/20/2016 08:54 AM, Razer wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 08/20/2016 04:02 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 06:23:12AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: >>>>>>> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2016-August/042032.html >>>>>>> Fri Aug 19 11:34:54 UTC 2016 >>>>>>> thread >>>>>>> Shutting down my tor relay >>>>>>> Stephan Seitz <stse+...@fsing.rootsland.net> >>>>>> >>>>>> Did Tor decide to piss off and disconnect the honest relay operators (or >>>>>> as much of them as possible) while keeping the luser cattle? >>>>>> >>>>>> AFAIK the onion anonymity highly depends on the honesty of the relays in >>>>>> the "circuit" (or whatever they call it, never mind). >>>>>> >>>>>> This way all relays will be spooks', while now only most of them are. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind of what it looks like. I was busi]y watching the 'culture clash' >>>>> between 'the suits', and what I affectionately call the 'bone in the >>>>> nose and earlobe hole' crowd. That's part of the process. Ejecting or >>>>> forcing out the alts and 'outlaws'. >>>> >>>> So you think that Andrea will eventually get lynched? >>>> >>> >>> I don't know any of the players in this Sadomasochistic organizational >>> implosion (I'm not a torproject sock puppet as Juan's deluded rants >>> state). I've just seen this clash of cultures and the backbiting and (as >>> we can see) literal slander before somewhere. >> >> My point is that you haven't characterized the players accurately. >> >>> For some reason it seems particularly well-planned out when one culture >>> is the government, and money, and the other culture's ethics >>> 'revolt'(snigger) at those things being primary. >> >> It's not that simple. I'd say that there are at least five cultures: 1) >> spooks; 2) suits; 3) SJWs; 4) classic geeks; 5) SJW geeks. It's a >> cluster-fuck. >> >