On 08/28/2016 07:17 PM, juan wrote: > On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 18:42:22 -0600 > Mirimir <miri...@riseup.net> wrote: > >> On 08/28/2016 06:11 PM, juan wrote: >>> On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 17:13:27 -0600 >>> Mirimir <miri...@riseup.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Well, without regulation, you have assholes adulterating >>> >>> >>> Are you joking or has your account been hacked? >> >> I could say the same for you, sometimes ;) > > > I highly doubt it. But go ahead, find one 'out of character' > post coming from my address... > > > >> >>> Your examples are a mix of nonsense with instances of black >>> market 'techniques' - black markets being a government >>> 'unintended' consequence of course. >> >> Those are all true examples. The sugar stuff happened long before >> there was any regulation. More generally, adulteration of food with >> poisonous metal salts was a key driver for food regulation. > > Complete bullshit. You talk as if any salt could be used to > adulterate any food when actually the only example is lead > acetate, which is not even a good example since it was commonly > used as a sugar substitute.
You, sir, are an ignorant moron ;) You could say that lead acetate was used a a sugar "substitute" before people knew how poisonous it is. But nobody was knowingly buying lead acetate as a sweetener in Victorian era. Many toxic metal salts have been used in food. Lead carbonate and acetate for sweetness, and lead oxide and chromate for red color. Copper salts to color stuff green. Cadmium for yellow. >>> Allegedly the romans used lead acetate instead of sugar, >>> and I doubt it's cheaper now. Fentanyl is a 'recreational drug' on >>> its own right. It may be used to 'spike' heroin if it's more >>> available, but it's not as if 'pure' heroin is 'healthy' >>> anyway. Et cetera. >> >> Pure heroin is just fine :) > > Just as fine as fentanyl, or a mix. They are both highly > POISONUS and DANGEROUS compounds. So should they be regulated? ;) >> I do agree that everything should be >> legal. But it should also be tested, and poisoners put in jail or >> killed. > > > Depending on circumstances. But really, the idea that in an > 'unregulated' market food will be poisones is probably the most > stupid thing I've read in this list. > > So again, are you hacked or what. Bro, stuff was unregulated in the US before the late 1800s. And people were being poisoned. That's why the FDA was created. >>> Or counsumers could use some 'due diligence' >> >> Do you know how to test your sugar for lead, Juan? Or your dried milk >> for melamine? Or your ethanol for methanol? > > I can look that up. And I do happen to have some sort of lab > laying around, go figure. Ha ha. I could too. But most people could not. > Also, adulterating vodka with methanol is sheer nonsense. > Methanol is indeed a poison. It's added to ethanol to make > 'denaturated' i.e. poisonous stuff. It would probably be better > to adulterate it with gasoline... Yes, it's used for denaturation. But it's also been commonly used for adulteration. And all of your bullshit won't change that fact. > Why don't we follow your incredibly clever line of 'thinking' > to its more general conclusions? Are you proposing to ban > forever any sort of knife? Very dangerous weapons you know. > They are sold everywhere, with no regulations. > > But wait, aren't you also pro-guns or something like that? That's totally distinguishable. If I kill someone with my shotgun, I'm responsible. If I buy grain alcohol that's adulterated with methanol, and my partner dies, the manufacturer and seller are responsible. Would you rather have a world where I'd have to track all those people down and kill them? > Seriously Mirimir, WTF. > > > J. >
