r/e posession of l0phtcrack being a felony, there is a legal precedent for
this.

If you commit the crime of burglary, anything you posses can be classified
a "burglary tool".  For example, under normal circumstances mere posession
of a screwdriver cannot get you a felony.  However, if you are caught
breaking and entering, and have a screwdriver in your posession, it is now
considered a 'burglary tool' even if the door was unlocked when you entered.  

By this principal, L0phtCrack could certainly be classified a "burglary
tool", but _only_ within the context of specific instances of burglary. 

Side comment - the laws regarding burglary tools are part of the "selective
enforcement" palette our modern judicial system is based around - dozens of
tack-ons to allow the prosecutors wide leeway, so they can force plea
bargains [of innocents], trump up charges against people they think
"should" be locked up, ect. ad nauseum.  

At 08:01 AM 3/22/00 CST, Scot Scot wrote:
>Oh man, this is going to be a good one. The man by law may not serve a day 
>in prision. It is not illegal to use tools like l0pht crack. They are 
>administrative tools (hehe). This is what the case will boil down to. The 
>chick will be in deep shi# for issuing that David guy a login name and 
>password. He did not hack the system, he had a username and password.
>
>One other issue that will decide whether or not David spends some quality 
>time as Bubba's Bitc# (hehe)... is if the company he supposidly hacked did 
>not have adequate warning banners notifying intruders that they are not 
>authorized to access their systems. That company is going to have a tough 
>day in court.
>
>Scot Wiedenfeld
>Computer Security Specialist
>Laws/Ethics/Intrusion Detection
>
>
>
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>>So what's the word, LegalEagll??  a Felony or not??
>>=====================
>>>www.channel4000.com/news/stories/news-20000217-164727.html
>>>According to this article (and a Hopkins Minnesota police department), it 
>>>is
>>>a felony to posess l0phtcrack.  Two people were charged with
>>>"...two counts of possession of burglary or theft tools (specifically, a
>>>software program for extracting user IDs and passwords from a computer
>>>system). "
>>>
>>>Later, the articles explains that these two people '...accessed the VP
>>>Projects computer system and installed a software program called 
>>>LOphtCrack,
>>>which is designed to extract user IDs and passwords. "
>>>
>>>According to the article, its also a felony to attempt to gain access 
>>>using
>>>it as well as another felony when you actually gain access.
>>>
>>>M. Burnett
>>
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