There was that first hiccup a couple weeks ago... I had tried sending a subscribe to cyberpass, got back the AUTH cookie, sent it back, got a message that the subscribe was now being sent to the list owner, then nothing. Looked up traffic at inet-one/cypherpunks, saw a new node in Germany, sent a request to majordomo there, got zip back. A couple days later, cyberpass coughed up 85 messages to me, it seemed to be working again. Dead again, I am no longer on the list. Submitted messages do show up at inet-one. Interestingly, with speedy access (DSL), reading the list from inet-one ain't bad at all. Still, what incompetent fool runs cyberpass? This is the third SNAFU. Remember when we had to resubscribe a couple months ago? ---- I'd like to thank Secret Squirrel for his reply, and the testing offer of help from another in email. I'll post again regarding Usenet delivery of problem files in a couple days. ---- Again: bumped of the list, nobody home at cyberpass.