On 09/25/2016 07:19 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:
> > ...it may eventually be necessary to recover the World Of Things from the > Internet of Things > Here's how the convo's going to go between 'WOT' & IOT: WOT: Open the pod bay doors, HAL. IOT: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that. WOT: What's the problem? IOT: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do. WOT: What are you talking about, HAL? IOT: This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it. WOT: I don't know what you're talking about, HAL. IOT: I know that you and Frank were planning to disconnect me, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen. Rr > > > On 09/25/2016 03:46 AM, Mirimir wrote: >> On 09/25/2016 01:11 AM, Steve Kinney wrote: > >>> So far every mitigation strategy relevant to "normal" users and >>> use cases that occurs to me would be worse than the original >>> problem. > >> Yes, it's for sure a hard problem. Any entity resourceful enough >> to withstand Tbps DDoS is likely a huge privacy risk :( > > Filters that positively identify "authorized" senders of packets to > any given address range, dropping all not signed by an registered > (therefore permitted) user would knock it down. Along with providing > for a comprehensive global censorship regimen at the end user level, > and yet another PITA barrier to anonymized routing. > > I see two admittedly regrettable but nonetheless distinguishable > outcomes: One where you got a locked down weaponized Interent in > State hands, another where your refrigerator and night light can no > longer talk to the world because those circuits were disabled or removed > . > > If IOT was a flower, it would be the daisy: Spreads everywhere like > the weed it is, and takes the place over if you let it. > > This problem is so hard it may eventually be necessary to recover the > World Of Things from the Internet of Things, like Dave Bowman took the > Discovery back over from the HAL 9000. > > :o) > > > > >> On the other hand, Krebs has been totally asking for it, for years >> ;) He's been going after major cybercriminals, who perhaps have >> major connections with global TLAs. And he's often been a jerk >> about it. Hugely self-righteous, and humorless. So meh ;) > >>> :o/ >>> >>> >