> On Nov 10, 2016, at 12:26 PM, juan <juan....@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 12:06:33 -0500 > John Newman <j...@synfin.org> wrote: > >> >>> On Nov 10, 2016, at 10:58 AM, Razer <ray...@riseup.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/10/2016 03:47 AM, John Newman wrote some non-analytical >>> nonsense: >>> >>>> Violence ended slavery in the South. >>>> Violence created the so called "land of the free" =) >>>> >>>> Sometimes it's the solution. >>>> >>>> John >>> >>> >>> >>> Violence is a tactic. It can LEAD to a solution but it is not the >>> solution itself >> >> Yes , truly spoken. >> >> The thing about violence is - science has advanced so many "wonderful >> ways" for us to kill ourselves, > > > Not meaning to re-start a flame war =P, but I think you mean > technology, not science. Yes, technological development is > (partly) related to what can be called 'basic' science but > they are distinct. > > >> it becomes increasingly obvious >> humanity needs to either disavow war altogether (how to do that I >> have no idea) or face the inevitable conclusion that we are going to >> fucking destroy ourselves. > > That's a possibility, but it doesn't strike me as too > consistent with the 'science' of 'biology' - How many examples > of species that commit collective suicide are there? Why should > human *animals* be different? Even inter species competition > doesn't lead to complete destruction usually. > > On the other hand, given the trends in 'networking' and > totalitarianism, it wouldn't be too surprising if the human > race became some sort of collective entity in which our ruling > monsters (say google and clinton) would act as a 'brain'. > >
Bostrum (the simulation hypothesis guy) has some interesting thoughts on the future of humanity that basically boil down to a few possibilities, one of which is humanity locking itself (forever) into some sort of totalitarian dystopia similar to what you outline. Fundamentally I think this is the same thing as destroying ourselves outright. > >> Fermi paradox solved =) >> >> >> >> John >