Hi Edward, Consensus is agreement by means of votes. It's a hierarchy where those who win the vote impose on those who lose the vote (although sometimes the dissenters just exit altogether).
One no-voting method of collaboration is stigmergy: https://georgiebc.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/stigmergy-2/ See also: https://georgiebc.wordpress.com/2017/02/23/a-societal-singularity/ On 12/07/2017 06:19 PM, g2s wrote: > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Edward Low <edward...@riseup.net> > Date: 12/7/17 5:03 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org > Subject: What is consensus? > > There is a question I would like to send to the list and get some feedback. > > As far as I was told, consensus is a way to reach a decision without the > need of voting, so there is no majority nor minority, no one can impose > their ways even if they are majority so no lobby and no forcing. > Clearly, education is needed for that, so everyone understands the need > of giving up a little bit in order to make it work for the common project. > > Lately I've been seeing consensus described as voting system, with > majorities and minorities. My english is short, so maybe there is a word > to describe consensus as a no-voting system to reach a common solution? > > Thanks > > E. Low > > -- > Edward Low > edward...@riseup.net > Libertalia (Madagascar) > > Consensus implies everyone agrees. Using OccupyWallStreet as example of > how it fails when there isn't some sort of at least general agreement, > the the BLOCK in the consensus system they used was based on Spanish > anarchist unions who were in general avreement on a goal, and a block > STOPPED the process until whatever issue the blockung party brought up > was resolved. > > > At Occupy there were so many political interests represented that the > BLOCK, it was felt, was being used to disrupt, and it was modified to > basically mean you were voting yourself out of the process unless you > withdrew the block... > > Which turned the process into mob democracy where the largest faction > won in spite of problems perceived by people blocking, and OFC, the > largest factions were typically scumbag prog-libs. > > Rr